In a message dated 21/01/00 23:41:48 GMT Standard Time, twleiper@........ writes: C>>the Lehman.... is an 'open loop' device.... T>There is no feedback, just damping (resistive) C>> How about devising an auto-zero circuit for the seismometer, so that you never have to readjust it? T> Basically, a force balanced instrument (using a DISPLACEMENT SENSOR to create an "error" signal used to apply a balancing force to "hold" the mass in a fixed position relative to earth) would never need adjustment, except perhaps for optimum performance. C>> Agreed, but you described a moving coil sensor, which gives a signal proportional to the rate of movement of the coil in the magnetic field, but it is not sensitive to the position of the coil in that field.... T> All one has to do is pass a sample of that error voltage through a high pass filter .... and on to the signal processing circuitry.... The first integration of acceleration would give velocity and then integrating velocity gives displacement...I think. See what I mean? C>> Suppose that you have a Lehman arm offset from zero and it then moves a bit. A coil pickup moving in a magnetic field will give you the differentiated movement signal, which could then be integrated to give the approximate movement, less any non linearity's, integrator drifts etc., or in a force balance system, used to hold the arm in a fixed position with respect to the base. What the integrated signal cannot give you is the initial offset (or integration constant). Unless you have some sort of position signal available, even if it is quite rough and ready, you can't correct for slow drifts. You used to be able to buy photo potentiometers which could have done this job nicely for your +/- 0.75" movements, but I haven't seen any about recently. They were made on an alumina strip ~2" long x ~0.15" wide. On one face, a conductive strip was deposited along one long edge and a resistance element on the other long edge. The strips were completely bridged by CdS photo conductor. If you put a voltage across the resistance and shone a narrow spot of light on the element, the CdS conducted only under the light spot and the conducting strip picked up that voltage. Does anyone know if they are still available, please? In the S-G seismometers, the arm is stabilised by gravity and you need to measure micron movements. In Karl Cunningham's force balance seismometer, the position is sensed by an +/- 0.1" LVDT transducer and used for the feedback. It would be nice to have an 'add on' device for a mechanical garden gate Lehman which would stabilise the arm, particularly for people who are interested in seismology but do not have access to a highly stable site. > I just want to make something that is simple, cheap, and gets good squiggles for others. >> It is the 'good' which may be the difficult bit, but since you have done such an admirable job with the standard Lehman design.... and I do mean that most sincerely. Regards Chris _____________________________________________________________________ Public Seismic Network Mailing List (PSN-L)
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