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Subject: Re: piezo-geophone
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:20:29 EDT


In a message dated 02/07/01, kd6iwd@......... writes:

> I made a seismic sensor out of a 1.5 inch piezo disk transducer. In my 
> application I was trying to detect footsteps. I was able to detect 
> footsteps at least 75
> feet away. Piezo transducers may be suitable for strong motion transducers 
> or even as general purpose geophones.

       With a 60 gm load on a 1/4" dia. central rod, the resonant disk 
frequency seems to be about 20 Hz. I found that my disks cracked at loads 
between 1.2 and 1.4 Kg dead weight on a central 1/4" dia rod stuck on with 
epoxy. With a LCT2201 amp, the piezo of 50 nF capacity seems to work OK into 
10 M Ohm (T=0.5 sec). A direct comparison with a L15B vertical geophone 
indicated that the piezo was giving about 5x the output. It should not be 
difficult to provide some oil damping for the piezo mass. There seems to be 
adequate performance from piezo devices to make them useful in principle for 
short period work. [Remembering that force = mass x acceleration, adding a 
mass maybe a hundred times the mass of the disk on it's own produces a huge 
increase in the output.]

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman
In a message dated 02/07/01, kd6iwd@......... writes:


I made a seismic sensor out of a 1.5 inch piezo disk transducer. In my
application I was trying to detect footsteps. I was able to detect
footsteps at least 75
feet away. Piezo transducers may be suitable for strong motion transducers
or even as general purpose geophones.


      With a 60 gm load on a 1/4" dia. central rod, the resonant disk
frequency seems to be about 20 Hz. I found that my disks cracked at loads
between 1.2 and 1.4 Kg dead weight on a central 1/4" dia rod stuck on with
epoxy. With a LCT2201 amp, the piezo of 50 nF capacity seems to work OK into
10 M Ohm (T=0.5 sec). A direct comparison with a L15B vertical geophone
indicated that the piezo was giving about 5x the output. It should not be
difficult to provide some oil damping for the piezo mass. There seems to be
adequate performance from piezo devices to make them useful in principle for
short period work. [Remembering that force = mass x acceleration, adding a
mass maybe a hundred times the mass of the disk on it's own produces a huge
increase in the output.]

      Regards,

      Chris Chapman

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