The company I work for makes GPS based clocks. We care about Selective = Availability because we are trying to get accuracy down near 10 or 20 = nS. Even with it on, it just brings the uncertainty in the time to +- = 200ns RMS or so. I know I can't pick a P or S time anywhere near that = accurately! We watched to see if SA got turned on last week, but it = didn't. The current thinking in military circles is to use "regional = jamming" They just use standard electronic countermeasure techniques to = jam the civilian portion of the GPS signal in the area they care about. = That way truckers in Ohio still know which parking spot they're in, even = if there's a war going on in the Middle East. Keith ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ChrisAtUpw@.......... To: psn-l@................. Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 6:05 PM Subject: Re: War-time GPS Don't really see why the clocks should be off far enough to = notice. More likely to be the random jitter on the position fixes which = died out a couple of years ago. Also airliners are using it now, so it = is unlikely to be seriously degraded. But do the Afghans use it? Would = expect it to be operating at max. efficiency all the time. Won't it be = needed for any air strikes? If it was turned on and off, wouldn't that = give a warning to the other side? But 100 m at the speed of light is = about 1/3 micro second --- don't think my seis equipment would know the = difference.=20 Regards,=20 Chris Chapman=20The company I work for makes GPS based=20 clocks. We care about Selective Availability because we are trying = to get=20 accuracy down near 10 or 20 nS. Even with it on, it just brings = the=20 uncertainty in the time to +- 200ns RMS or so. I know I can't pick = a P or=20 S time anywhere near that accurately! We watched to see if SA got = turned=20 on last week, but it didn't. The current thinking in military = circles is=20 to use "regional jamming" They just use standard electronic = countermeasure=20 techniques to jam the civilian portion of the GPS signal in the area = they care=20 about. That way truckers in Ohio still know which parking spot = they're in,=20 even if there's a war going on in the Middle East.Keith----- Original Message -----From:=20 ChrisAtUpw@.......Sent: Sunday, September 23, = 2001 6:05=20 PMSubject: Re: War-time GPSDon't really see why the clocks = should be=20 off far enough to notice. More likely to be the random jitter on the = position=20 fixes which died out a couple of years ago. Also airliners are using = it now,=20 so it is unlikely to be seriously degraded. But do the Afghans use it? = Would=20 expect it to be operating at max. efficiency all the time. Won't it be = needed=20 for any air strikes? If it was turned on and off, wouldn't that give a = warning=20 to the other side? But 100 m at the speed of light is about 1/3 micro = second=20 --- don't think my seis equipment would know the difference.=20
Regards,=20
Chris Chapman=20
Larry Cochrane <cochrane@..............>