Hi I have a copy of the Laser Cookbook. I got it because I was intrigued by the idea of a laser-based seismograph. The web page that Ron Thompson referred us to was for a class project (presumably for a class that dealt with lasers). Some of the other projects look interesting by the way. It looks like the two students who wrote the web page pretty much borrowed the design directly from the Laser Cookbook. Apparently, in a stepped-index fiber, laser light travels through the fiber in several groups of light beams. At the transmitting laser, all the light beams have exactly the same phase (a basic property of laser light known as coherency). As the light beams travel along the stepped-index fiber, the phase of each group of light beams changes relative to the other groups. Apparently, if the fiber is long enough, the light coming out the far end is completely incoherent (i.e. the optical equivalent of mush, or ordinary light). By using only 10 - 20 feet of fiber in the seismograph, coherency is only partly degraded. When the laser light is detected by a phototransistor and the resulting electrical signal is amplified, the slight differences in phase relationship between the groups of light beams creates low frequency audio noise. Based on the description given in the Laser Cookbook, I am guessing that the audio noise is fairly constant in the absence of changes in geometry of the fiber. The changes in phase relationship are sensitive to length of the fiber as mentioned and curvature. I wouldn't be surprised if temperature causes changes as well. Vibration dynamically changes the curvature of the fiber causing dynamic changes in phase relationship. The audio noise generated by the phototransistor changes. The Laser Cookbook mentions that the noise "changes pitch and makes odd thuds, pings, and thrums". The Cookbook does not provide a precise analysis of the changes in phase relationship, so the mathematical relationship between the changing noise and the original vibration is unclear. Figure 4 (16-3 in the Cookbook) gives the mechanical structure of the seismograph. As Bob Avakian has pointed out, the device is non-directional because the fiber is wound around four bolts in a rectangle, so the fiber will have both N-S and E-W components of motion. Because the fiber can move in a vertical direction, there will also be a vertical component. Some degree of directionality could be achieved by using only two bolts oriented in a N-S or E-W direction. You would unfortunately still have a vertical component mixed in. The other problem I can see is that the fiber motion is not damped. Figure 5 (15-9 in the Cookbook) provides the schematic for the phototransistor and amplifier. In Figure 15-9 in the Cookbook there is an LM386 audio amplifier chip that is fed by the output of the LM741. In Figure 5 from the web page, the potentiometer wiper output lead is connected to the positive input of the 386 and the negative input of the 386 is grounded as indicated by the other output lead in Figure 5. The output of the 386 is capactively coupled (220 uF) to a headphone jack. The author of the cookbook built the seismograph and detected a quake in the Los Angeles area on October 1, 1987. The M6.1 quake was 50 miles away from the seismograph. Hopefully that was interesting. If you have any other questions that I can answer by digging through the Cookbook, let me know. Ron Westfall -----Original Message----- From: psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@................. Behalf Of ChrisAtUpw@....... Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:42 PM To: psn-l@.............. Subject: Re: laser seismograph A LASER SEISMOGRAPH EE488 Department of Electrical Engineering University of Washington Autumn Quarter, 1994 Proposal prepared by: Leslie Woitte and Richard Anderson Hi All, With the date 1994, there should be some record if this was ever tried and what, if any, results were obtained. The article seems to lack any logical relationship between a mechanical vibration and the 'noise' on the output. The use of a lot of long words and a 741 amplifier does not immediately inspire confidence in the scholarship of the proposal. Perhaps someone who has a copy of the 'Laser Cookbook' would look it up the text associated with Fig 16-9 and comment, please? Regards, Chris ChapmanHiI have=20 a copy of the Laser Cookbook. I got it because I was intrigued by = the idea=20 of a laser-basedseismograph.The=20 web page that Ron Thompson referred us to was for a class project = (presumably=20 for a classthat=20 dealt with lasers). Some of the other projects look interesting by = the=20 way. It looks like the twostudents who wrote the web page pretty much borrowed the design = directly=20 from the LaserCookbook.Apparently, in a stepped-index fiber, laser light travels = through the=20 fiber in several groups of lightbeams. At the transmitting laser, all the light beams = have exactly=20 the same phase (a basic propertyof=20 laser light known as coherency). As the=20 light beams travel along the stepped-index fiber, = thephase=20 of each group of light beams changes relative to the other groups. = Apparently, if the fiberis=20 long enough, the light coming out the far end is completely incoherent = (i.e. the=20 optical equivalentof=20 mush, or ordinary light).By=20 using only 10 - 20 feet of fiber in the seismograph, = coherency is only=20 partly degraded. Whenthe=20 laser light is detected by a phototransistor and the resulting = electrical=20 signal is amplified, theslight=20 differences in phase relationship between the groups of light beams=20 creates low frequencyaudio=20 noise. Based on the description given in the Laser Cookbook, I am = guessing=20 that the audionoise=20 is fairly constant in the absence of changes in geometry = of the=20 fiber.The=20 changes in phase relationship are sensitive to length of the fiber as = mentioned=20 and curvature.I=20 wouldn't be surprised if temperature causes changes as well. =20 Vibration dynamically changesthe=20 curvature of the fiber causing dynamic changes in phase = relationship. The audio noisegenerated by the phototransistor changes. The Laser = Cookbook=20 mentions that the noise "changespitch=20 and makes odd thuds, pings, and thrums". The Cookbook does not = provide a=20 preciseanalysis of the changes in phase relationship, so the = mathematical=20 relationship between thechanging noise and the original vibration is = unclear.Figure=20 4 (16-3 in the Cookbook) gives the mechanical structure of the=20 seismograph. As BobAvakian has pointed out, the device is non-directional because = the fiber=20 is wound aroundfour=20 bolts in a rectangle, so the fiber will have both N-S and E-W components = of=20 motion. Becausethe=20 fiber can move in a vertical direction, there will also be a vertical=20 component.Some=20 degree of directionality could be achieved by using only two=20 bolts oriented in a N-S or E-Wdirection. You would unfortunately still have a vertical = component=20 mixed in. The other problem Ican=20 see is that the fiber motion is not damped.Figure=20 5 (15-9 in the Cookbook) provides the schematic for the phototransistor = and=20 amplifier. InFigure=20 15-9 in the Cookbook there is an LM386 audio amplifier chip that is fed = by the=20 output ofthe=20 LM741. In Figure 5 from the web page, the potentiometer wiper = output lead=20 is connected to thepositive input of the 386 and the negative input of the 386 is = grounded=20 as indicated by the otheroutput=20 lead in Figure 5. The output of the 386 is capactively coupled = (220 uF) to=20 a headphonejack.The=20 author of the cookbook built the seismograph and detected a quake in the = Los=20 Angeles areaon=20 October 1, 1987. The M6.1 quake was 50 miles away from the=20 seismograph.Hopefully that was interesting. If you have any other = questions=20 that I can answer by diggingthrough the Cookbook, let me know.Ron=20 Westfall-----Original Message-----
From: = psn-l-request@................. [mailto:psn-l-request@...............On Behalf Of=20 ChrisAtUpw@.......
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:42 = PM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: Re: laser=20 seismographA LASER SEISMOGRAPH
EE488
Department of Electrical Engineering=20
University of Washington
Autumn Quarter, 1994 Proposal = prepared by:=20 Leslie Woitte and Richard Anderson
Hi All,=20
With the date 1994, there = should be=20 some record if this was ever tried and what, if any, results were = obtained.=20 The article seems to lack any logical relationship between a = mechanical=20 vibration and the 'noise' on the output. The use of a lot of long = words and a=20 741 amplifier does not immediately inspire confidence in the = scholarship of=20 the proposal. Perhaps someone who has a copy of the 'Laser Cookbook' = would=20 look it up the text associated with Fig 16-9 and comment, please?=20
Regards,=20
Chris Chapman
Larry Cochrane <cochrane@..............>