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Subject: Re: Publication on the Web
From: "jimesler" jimesler@..........
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:40:29 -0600


Hello,

Thanks for the pointers with the PDF file.=20

Thanks for the tip - I've been playing around with a Texas Instruments =
TSL230 chip - http://www.taosinc.com/pdf/tsl230.pdf  which is a light to =
frequency converter - which if you have enough time between samples may =
possibly be used as a photon counter???.  One of the problems in using =
an inferometer outside of the resolution issue is that the arc of the =
boom would tend to throw the alignment required out of line. =20

I saw really neat web page @ =
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~blootl/trackers/sunflower.htm - some =
folk in the U.K. have been constructing very large parabolic mirror to =
point at the sun,  > 40 KW outputs...   The TSL230 would make for a =
dandy solar alignment sensor.

Here on the tundra of Minnesota, I've just built my second 24 bit ADC =
board - sent it off to my brother in Canada for eval.  I'm using a 30K =
turn coil and a (1,10,100,1000 x ) programmable gain amp - and a stamp =
to control it all - sending 10 hz data to my PC with a VB front end that =
displays my traces in realtime....  I get quite a signal just rotating =
the assemby away from any magnet - just using the earth magnetic feild =
to interact with the coil...  The whole thing sits on a 2 x 3 inch board =
running of a single sided supply.  I steal a +12 v line from the PC to =
run it.

Jim


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ChrisAtUpw@..........
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 6:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Publication on the Web


  In a message dated 17/11/2001, jimesler@.......... writes:=20


    Does anyone have any experiences in building an inferometer for =
measuring=20
    displacement in seismographs?=20
    Jim Esler


  Dear Jim Esler,=20

        The problem with using methods which depend on the wavelength of =
light is that you are ultimately limited by this dimension, which is =
about 0.6 micron. When observing seismic signals, you will probably want =
a resolution of better than 1/20 of this. While optical sensors which =
measure to small fractions of a wavelength can be bought, they are =
neither simple nor cheap.=20

        The wavelength limitation may be largely avoided by using a =
fairly intense and  constant light source to illuminate a pair of =
silicon photodiodes through a moving shutter attached to the seismometer =
arm. The difference in the photocurrents is measured, filtered and =
amplified. This 'photon counting' method is also simpler in principle =
than interferometer techniques. Hope that this helps.=20

        Regards,=20

        Chris Chapman            =20







Hello,
 
Thanks for the pointers with the PDF file. =
 
Thanks for the tip - I've been playing around with a = Texas=20 Instruments TSL230 chip - http://www.taosinc.com/pdf= /tsl230.pdf =20 which is a light to frequency converter - which if you have enough time = between=20 samples may possibly be used as a photon counter???.  One of the = problems=20 in using an inferometer outside of the resolution issue is that the arc = of the=20 boom would tend to throw the alignment required out of line.  =
 
I saw really neat web page @ = http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~blootl/trackers/sunflower.htm = -=20 some folk in the U.K. have been constructing very large parabolic mirror = to=20 point at the sun, > 40 KW outputs...   The TSL230 would = make for a=20 dandy solar alignment sensor.
 
Here on the tundra of Minnesota, I've just built my = second 24=20 bit ADC board - sent it off to my brother in Canada for eval.  I'm = using a=20 30K turn coil and a (1,10,100,1000 x ) programmable gain amp - and a = stamp to=20 control it all - sending 10 hz data to my PC with a VB front end that = displays=20 my traces in realtime....  I get quite a signal just rotating the = assemby=20 away from any magnet - just using the earth magnetic feild to interact = with the=20 coil...  The whole thing sits on a 2 x 3 inch board running of a = single=20 sided supply.  I steal a +12 v line from the PC to run = it.
 
Jim
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ChrisAtUpw@.......
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Saturday, November 17, = 2001 6:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: Publication on the = Web

In a = message dated=20 17/11/2001, jimesler@..........=20 writes:

Does anyone have any experiences in building an = inferometer for=20 measuring
displacement in seismographs?
Jim = Esler


Dear Jim Esler,=20

      The problem with using = methods=20 which depend on the wavelength of light is that you are ultimately = limited by=20 this dimension, which is about 0.6 micron. When observing seismic = signals, you=20 will probably want a resolution of better than 1/20 of this. While = optical=20 sensors which measure to small fractions of a wavelength can be = bought, they=20 are neither simple nor cheap. =

      The=20 wavelength limitation may be largely avoided by using a fairly intense = and=20  constant light source to illuminate a pair of silicon = photodiodes=20 through a moving shutter attached to the seismometer arm. The = difference in=20 the photocurrents is measured, filtered and amplified. This 'photon = counting'=20 method is also simpler in principle than interferometer techniques. = Hope that=20 this helps.

      Regards,=20

      Chris Chapman=20 =            
= =20

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