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Subject: RE: Sprengnether 201 Long-Period Vertical Seismometer on EBay
From: Jack Ivey ivey@..........
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:51:47 -0500


Hi all,
I'm debating if I want another boat anchor.  Do we know what period it is?
Does anyone know how to tell this guy to lock the mass for shipping?
Also, is anyone bidding on it? 
 
Thanks,
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: meredithlamb [mailto:meredithlamb@..............
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:19 PM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: Re: Sprengnether 201 Long-Period Vertical Seismometer on EBay


Hi everyone, 

If you want a vertical and more access to seeing the early 
and clearer "P" wave signals (and others), this might be the 
machine for you.  Horizontals just don't pick up the early quake 
signals quite as well. 


With a adequate vault and temperature control, such a 
instrument (at least for here experience wise), will probably 
prove to be very dependable for low drift of the mass/boom. 
The design came out in the 1950's-1960's or thereabouts. 


I'd suspect that the seller won't adequately prepare it for 
shipment, especially the boom/mass.  When I got mine 
(many years ago), the pivot hinges were snapped, the cover viewing 
glass was broken and all the thin diameter jumper signal/damping 
wires were broken.  Relatively minor items to replace/repair. 
Their could be real serious reason for it being surplus now (?). 


Potentially the most serious/difficult problem "could" lie with the 
two coils for damping/signal.  If they get thrown around and 
damaged....their isn't any possible replacements.  The 
coil wire it self can also break over time, due to a manufacturers 
sudden coil winding speed shift (a type of copper wire stress or 
stretch knot),  which I've noted on acouple coils over time. 
Luckily they were both on the outside area of the coils, which 
didn't mean too much unwinding too find. 


Even in the worst case scenario (no working coils), the frame 
and "zero length" spring would be enviable to have; let alone the 
longer period vertical configuration.  One "might" have to adopt 
other damping/signal means. 


Note the weight of the unpacked instrument (115 pounds), the 
shipping cost can be potentially higher than the winning bid price. 
On the other hand, it "might" still be worthwhile to have even with 
the tacked on costs...the massive solid aluminum frame and parts 
are usually excellent material. 


Be prepared to have to work on the brass setscrews (die), and 
retap the aluminum base setscrew holes due to oxidation, old 
dried up grease/dirt.  The tap and die could cost up to $100, 
or thereabouts. 


If you win the bid, I'd suggest that the buyer request that the 
two mass weights be removed (unscrewed); the boom lock pin 
installed, and the coil magnets assembly also be removed (gently); 
and shipped separately, even if it means more cost initially to the 
buyer.  Otherwise; if you can pick it up yourself, and prepare it 
before moving....that would be the best alternate route.  The 
risks and reward/s are with the buyer of course. 


Take care, Meredith 


Larry Cochrane wrote: 


Hi Everyone, 

Someone on EBay is selling one. See 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem

&item=1785642626 


I would bid on it but I don't need another sensor right now... 


-Larry Cochrane 
Redwood City, PSN 
 








Hi all,
I'm debating if I want another boat anchor.  Do we know what period it is?
Does anyone know how to tell this guy to lock the mass for shipping?
Also, is anyone bidding on it? 
 
Thanks,
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: meredithlamb [mailto:meredithlamb@..............
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 10:19 PM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: Re: Sprengnether 201 Long-Period Vertical Seismometer on EBay

Hi everyone,

If you want a vertical and more access to seeing the early
and clearer "P" wave signals (and others), this might be the
machine for you.  Horizontals just don't pick up the early quake
signals quite as well.

With a adequate vault and temperature control, such a
instrument (at least for here experience wise), will probably
prove to be very dependable for low drift of the mass/boom.
The design came out in the 1950's-1960's or thereabouts.

I'd suspect that the seller won't adequately prepare it for
shipment, especially the boom/mass.  When I got mine
(many years ago), the pivot hinges were snapped, the cover viewing
glass was broken and all the thin diameter jumper signal/damping
wires were broken.  Relatively minor items to replace/repair.
Their could be real serious reason for it being surplus now (?).

Potentially the most serious/difficult problem "could" lie with the
two coils for damping/signal.  If they get thrown around and
damaged....their isn't any possible replacements.  The
coil wire it self can also break over time, due to a manufacturers
sudden coil winding speed shift (a type of copper wire stress or
stretch knot),  which I've noted on acouple coils over time.
Luckily they were both on the outside area of the coils, which
didn't mean too much unwinding too find.

Even in the worst case scenario (no working coils), the frame
and "zero length" spring would be enviable to have; let alone the
longer period vertical configuration.  One "might" have to adopt
other damping/signal means.

Note the weight of the unpacked instrument (115 pounds), the
shipping cost can be potentially higher than the winning bid price.
On the other hand, it "might" still be worthwhile to have even with
the tacked on costs...the massive solid aluminum frame and parts
are usually excellent material.

Be prepared to have to work on the brass setscrews (die), and
retap the aluminum base setscrew holes due to oxidation, old
dried up grease/dirt.  The tap and die could cost up to $100,
or thereabouts.

If you win the bid, I'd suggest that the buyer request that the
two mass weights be removed (unscrewed); the boom lock pin
installed, and the coil magnets assembly also be removed (gently);
and shipped separately, even if it means more cost initially to the
buyer.  Otherwise; if you can pick it up yourself, and prepare it
before moving....that would be the best alternate route.  The
risks and reward/s are with the buyer of course.

Take care, Meredith

Larry Cochrane wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Someone on EBay is selling one. See
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1785642626

I would bid on it but I don't need another sensor right now...

-Larry Cochrane
Redwood City, PSN
 


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