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Subject: Something completly different.
From: Jan Froom Froom@.............
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 20:17:28 -0800


I don't know if any of you have discovered the California Coastal 
Records  site. Kenneth Adelman 
and his wife have taken over 12,000 pictures of the California coast 
from Oregon to Mexico in the past three months; his wife is a helicopter 
pilot. These pictures are posted at the California Coastal Records web 
site and are free to anyone who wants to use them for non commercial 
purposes.

His motivation, the protection of the California coast, by documenting 
its current state.  They have done all this at their own expense and are 
not looking to raise any money to further this project, but their goal 
is to fund the California Coastal Protection Network (CCPN). CCPN, a 
California Nonprofit Organization, is going to be marketing the 
commercial rights to these photographs to raise money for coastal 
conservation.

Needless to say it has become somewhat controversial....  And he 
received this note from an irate citizen regarding national security and 
some sort of geological problem associated with these pictures...

Sorry for the long lead in.....

Do any of you know what this guy is "hinting" about.....        Thanks Jan

	From: "Kumar Subramaniam"  
	To: sjordan51@.......
	Subject: Suggestion
	Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:38:01 -0800

	Hi Susan,

	I deeply appreciate your website.  You are trying to do something
	that is great and useful to protect California environment.  I
	lived in CA and took all those fabulous rides around the coast.
	Your photographs are amazing.

	But I have a suggestion that you may want to strongly consider.  I
	come from a background which you may not understand fully.  I have
	2 Masters degree in engineering related to geotech etc.  and
	perfoming advanced research on earthquake prediction etc.  I
	track quakes that involve people lives and have been more
	successful than even the best agencies spending billions on
	it.

	To me the exposure of California coastline to the public this way
	is extremely dangerous for the following reasons:

	After 9/11 exposing your coastline without proper computer system
	policies (preferred users) will achieve dangerous results i.e.
	opposite to what you are trying to do.

	I beg you not to expose CA to the whole world at this time.  It is
	pretty easy for terrorists to target your sites.  I speak with
	great scientific backing after studying with the top most
	scientist related to geology on earth.	There are many many ways
	that one could cause serious harm to CA with least of equipments
	not from the traditional weapons of mass destruction but with
	something totally different which people like me and few know and
	do not tell it out for security reasons.

	Even if they may or may not be able to do it today they can
	certainly in say 5 years when all this 9/11 would have been
	forgotten.

	The security system in this nation cannot cover all those things
	as it is very very expensive to save the whole Coast that too
	there are no geologist with such a background who work for your
	top security agencies.	I know that.

	So, I beg you to not expose these coastlines as it will achieve
	something that you can never ever imagine.  No geologist will tell
	you all this openly because of security reasons.................

	To me you should have restricted access to your site and you have
	to have a reasonably good mechanism as to whom you expose this
	site.

	You can contact the experts in the field of system policy and how
	to implement it.

	Even otherwise, please wait with your environmental concerns for
	at least a year till the national security system is in place.
	Please.  I studied in the top health and safety and earth science
	school.

	Thanks
	Kumar

 



  
  


I don't know if any of you have discovered the California Coastal Records
site. Kenneth Adelman and his wife have taken over 12,000 pictures of the
California coast from Oregon to Mexico in the past three months; his wife
is a helicopter pilot. These pictures are posted at the California Coastal
Records web site and are free to anyone who wants to use them for non commercial
purposes.

His motivation, the protection of the California coast, by documenting its current state.  They have done all this at their own expense and are not looking to raise any money to further this project, but their goal is to fund the California Coastal Protection Network (CCPN). CCPN, a California Nonprofit Organization, is going to be marketing the commercial rights to these photographs to raise money for coastal conservation.

Needless to say it has become somewhat controversial....  And he received this note from an irate citizen regarding national security and some sort of geological problem associated with these pictures...

Sorry for the long lead in.....

Do any of you know what this guy is "hinting" about.....        Thanks Jan

	From: "Kumar Subramaniam" <paulmar3@...........>
	To: sjordan51@.......
	Subject: Suggestion
	Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:38:01 -0800

	Hi Susan,

	I deeply appreciate your website.  You are trying to do something
	that is great and useful to protect California environment.  I
	lived in CA and took all those fabulous rides around the coast.
	Your photographs are amazing.

	But I have a suggestion that you may want to strongly consider.  I
	come from a background which you may not understand fully.  I have
	2 Masters degree in engineering related to geotech etc.  and
	perfoming advanced research on earthquake prediction etc.  I
	track quakes that involve people lives and have been more
	successful than even the best agencies spending billions on
	it.

	To me the exposure of California coastline to the public this way
	is extremely dangerous for the following reasons:

	After 9/11 exposing your coastline without proper computer system
	policies (preferred users) will achieve dangerous results i.e.
	opposite to what you are trying to do.

	I beg you not to expose CA to the whole world at this time.  It is
	pretty easy for terrorists to target your sites.  I speak with
	great scientific backing after studying with the top most
	scientist related to geology on earth.	There are many many ways
	that one could cause serious harm to CA with least of equipments
	not from the traditional weapons of mass destruction but with
	something totally different which people like me and few know and
	do not tell it out for security reasons.

	Even if they may or may not be able to do it today they can
	certainly in say 5 years when all this 9/11 would have been
	forgotten.

	The security system in this nation cannot cover all those things
	as it is very very expensive to save the whole Coast that too
	there are no geologist with such a background who work for your
	top security agencies.	I know that.

	So, I beg you to not expose these coastlines as it will achieve
	something that you can never ever imagine.  No geologist will tell
	you all this openly because of security reasons.................

	To me you should have restricted access to your site and you have
	to have a reasonably good mechanism as to whom you expose this
	site.

	You can contact the experts in the field of system policy and how
	to implement it.

	Even otherwise, please wait with your environmental concerns for
	at least a year till the national security system is in place.
	Please.  I studied in the top health and safety and earth science
	school.

	Thanks
	Kumar
 

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