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Subject: Re: Pictures and drawings of my system
From: "kpayea" kpayea@...........
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 21:12:50 -0700
I'm working on a sketch that I hope will help understand the spring =
terminations. It is a bit "fiddly" to build, but it was designed in =
such a way that machine tools aren't required. I should have an update =
in a few days.
My site is in Santa Rosa, CA, a mid sized city north of San Francisco. =
My noise source are many, the worst (in amplitude) is thermally induced =
baseline drift. Luckily, this is easily compensated and/or ignored. =
Next in line is site noise. I'm only about 40 miles from the Pacific =
Ocean, and whenever there's a storm brewing, I git big "swells" in the =
traces. This could also be from barometric pressure changes, but I =
doubt it. I'm also only about 1/2 mile from Highway 101, and even less =
from a very busy main artery. These pretty much set my noise floor.
Thanks to all for the suggestions on how to publish the schematics. I'm =
going to try a few of them and see how they work.
Cheers,
Keith
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ChrisAtUpw@..........
To: psn-l@.................
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Pictures and drawings of my system
In a message dated 17/06/03, kpayea@........... writes:=20
Hello Keith,=20
Congratulations! It all looks very nice!=20
I notice that on the schematic drawing you have the two spring =
suspensions vertically above each other, whereas in the apparatus photo, =
the top suspension is closer to the hinge. This last one looks similar =
to the arrangement used in a LaCoste suspension. I wondered if you had =
been able to get significant period lengthening?=20
"One hint I can give is that the ends of the spring are pulling, =
not pushing"?=20
But the horizontal hinge foils in the photo look as if they are in =
compression, rather than in extension? I wondered if you had tried the 2 =
thou Stainless Steel foil from KS metals, or 1.5 thou steel shim strip?=20
You say "the limiting factor in this seismometer is not =
sensitivity, but noise". Is this geological, environmental or electronic =
noise, please?=20
For circuit diagrams, I usually enter the components on =
QuickCad, save it either as .jpg or .bmp and then use Micrografx Picture =
Publisher to scale or convert to a .gif A4 image. Alternatively, you can =
draw it with symbols on paper and scan it. I use tracing paper over =
graph paper to give an easy hand drawing scale. Can you not print out =
the OrCad images and re scan them?=20
Regards,=20
Chris Chapman=20
I'm working on a sketch that I hope =
will help=20
understand the spring terminations. It is a bit "fiddly" to build, =
but it=20
was designed in such a way that machine tools aren't required. I =
should=20
have an update in a few days.
My site is in Santa Rosa, CA, a mid =
sized city=20
north of San Francisco. My noise source are many, the worst (in =
amplitude)=20
is thermally induced baseline drift. Luckily, this is easily =
compensated=20
and/or ignored. Next in line is site noise. I'm only about =
40 miles=20
from the Pacific Ocean, and whenever there's a storm brewing, I git big =
"swells"=20
in the traces. This could also be from barometric pressure =
changes, but I=20
doubt it. I'm also only about 1/2 mile from Highway 101, and even =
less=20
from a very busy main artery. These pretty much set my noise=20
floor.
Thanks to all for the suggestions on =
how to publish=20
the schematics. I'm going to try a few of them and see how they=20
work.
Cheers,
Keith
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 =
8:05=20
PM
Subject: Re: Pictures and =
drawings of my=20
system
In a =
message dated=20
17/06/03, kpayea@........... =
writes:=20
Hello Keith,=20
Congratulations! It all =
looks very=20
nice!
I notice that on the =
schematic=20
drawing you have the two spring suspensions vertically above each =
other,=20
whereas in the apparatus photo, the top suspension is closer to the =
hinge.=20
This last one looks similar to the arrangement used in a LaCoste =
suspension. I=20
wondered if you had been able to get significant period lengthening?=20
"One hint I can give is that =
the ends=20
of the spring are pulling, not pushing"?
But the horizontal hinge =
foils in=20
the photo look as if they are in compression, rather than in =
extension? I=20
wondered if you had tried the 2 thou Stainless Steel foil from KS =
metals, or=20
1.5 thou steel shim strip?
You =
say=20
"the limiting factor in this seismometer is not sensitivity, but =
noise". Is=20
this geological, environmental or electronic noise, please?=20
For circuit diagrams, I =
usually enter=20
the components on QuickCad, save it either as .jpg or .bmp and then =
use=20
Micrografx Picture Publisher to scale or convert to a .gif A4 image.=20
Alternatively, you can draw it with symbols on paper and scan it. I =
use=20
tracing paper over graph paper to give an easy hand drawing scale. Can =
you not=20
print out the OrCad images and re scan them?
Regards,=20
Chris Chapman=20
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