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Subject: RE: Re: Iris Waveform Chart
From: "Timothy Carpenter" GeoDynamics@.......
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:18:34 -0500


John & John,

Thanks.

I reviewed your two references and then found this one:
http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/seismology/SHon2002/sp4sw.pdf which has some
revealing graphics as well.

Based on some of the stuff I've been reading, it looks like a lot of =
this
work was done ca. 1911. It still seems remarkable that so much was =
(could
be) done prior to the advent of the computer.

Regards,

-Tim-

=20

=20

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From: psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@............... =
On
Behalf Of John or Jan Lahr
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:07 AM
To: psn-l@..............
Cc: taber@........
Subject: Fwd: Re: Iris Waveform Chart

=20

John Taber, below, points out two sources of information on caustics =
that
are on the web. =20

The upper set if figures on Paul Richards's page (second URL below) =
shows
how caustics can develop when even when the velocity increases =
continuously
with depth. =20

The lower set of figures shows how a shadow zone and caustic are created
when there is a low velocity zone.

Cheers,
John




Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:17:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Iris Waveform Chart
To: John or Jan Lahr 
From: John Taber 

John,=20

That is my understanding as well. It is a point where energy will be
focused.  Rick Aster has a fairly complete explanation at
www.ees.nmt.edu/Geop/Classes/GEOP523/Docs/rays2003.pdf  .  One website =
which
shows an example, but without defining it is
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~richards/ARhtml/add_to_Sec9.4.html. I had
unsubscribed from the PSN list while I was away so your email reminded =
me to
resubscribe.=20

John=20


On Sunday, February 6, 2005, at 08:13  PM, John or Jan Lahr wrote:=20




Tim,=20

My understanding is that a caustic is formed when the derivative of =
Distance
with=20
Take-off angle is zero.  ("Distance" is the angular distance from the
earthquake=20
to the place where the ray reaches the surface of the Earth and Take-off
angle=20
measures the direction with respect to vertical that the ray leaves the
earthquake=20
source.)=20

Other cases of constructive interference are not termed caustics as far =
as I

know.  I'm traveling now, so can't refer to any seismology books and =
have=20
yet to find a good explanation on a web site. =20

Maybe John Taber or Alan Jones can double check me on this!=20

Cheers,=20
John=20















John & John,

Thanks.

I reviewed your two references and = then found this one: http://w= wwrses.anu.edu.au/seismology/SHon2002/sp4sw.pdf which has some revealing graphics as well.

Based on some of the stuff I've = been reading, it looks like a lot of this work was done ca. 1911. It still = seems remarkable that so much was (could be) done prior to the advent of the computer.

Regards,

-Tim-

 

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: = psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@............... On Behalf Of John or Jan Lahr
Sent:
Monday, February 07, 2005 1:07 AM
To: = psn-l@..............
Cc: taber@........
Subject: Fwd: Re: Iris = Waveform Chart

 

John Taber, below, points out two sources of information on caustics that are on the web. 

The upper set if figures on Paul Richards's page (second URL below) = shows how caustics can develop when even when the velocity increases continuously = with depth. 

The lower set of figures shows how a shadow zone and caustic are created = when there is a low velocity zone.

Cheers,
John


Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:17:39 = -0500
Subject: Re: Iris Waveform Chart
To: John or Jan Lahr <johnjan@........>
From: John Taber <taber@........>

John,

That is my = understanding as well. It is a point where energy will be focused.  Rick Aster has a = fairly complete explanation at www.ees.nmt.edu/Geop/Classes/GEOP523/Docs/rays2003.pdf  ..  One website which shows an example, but without defining it is = http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~richards/ARhtml/add_to_Sec9.4.html. I had unsubscribed from the PSN list while I was away so your email = reminded me to resubscribe.

John



On Sunday, February 6, 2005, at 08:13  PM, John or Jan Lahr wrote: =


Tim,

My understanding is that a caustic is formed when the derivative of = Distance with
Take-off angle is zero.  ("Distance" is the angular = distance from the earthquake
to the place where the ray reaches the surface of the Earth and Take-off = angle
measures the direction with respect to vertical that the ray leaves the earthquake
source.)

Other cases of constructive interference are not termed caustics as far = as I
know.  I'm traveling now, so can't refer to any seismology books = and have
yet to find a good explanation on a web site. 

Maybe John Taber or Alan Jones can double check me on this!

Cheers,
John


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