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Subject: Re: Op amp front end noise
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 23:35:44 EST
In a message dated 10/03/2005, jpopelish@........ writes:
I am getting pretty deeply into the design process for a velocity coil
seismometer amplifier and filter and have decided to try to quantify the relative
noise performance of various candidate opamps versus coil resistance. Here
is the list of low noise and general purpose types (which I have on hand) that
I am comparing:
LT1007
OP27
OP07
` Good luck!
OPA604?
LT1028
LT1677
Linear have noise tables for opamps.
These are the commonly used ones for coil / magnet systems. The choice
very much depends on the source resistance that you need to match.
Coil systems do not normally sense down to DC, but to some maximum
period. You put in a high pass filter to remove the 1/f noise and any drift. The
1/f noise can be very significant.
The MAX432 has about the best specifications of the CAZ group. These are
useful if you want very long periods, since they do not have any 1/f noise,
but they are essentially best for high impedance inputs. They work quite well
for DC systems, since they have very low thermal drift.
You can get very significantly improved noise performance using discrete
transistor inputs, either fet, npn or pnp and also by using a true chopper
amplifier.
My biggest difficulty in completing this task has been resolving the wide
variation in noise specifications for the various types to produce a valid
comparison in the DC to 10 Hz frequency range, especially comparing the
chopper types to the others.
The chopper types quoted seem to be all fet input, which have high impedance
inputs. The current noise is very low, but the voltage noise is significant.
There is a paper from the 90's? comparing noise in seismometer amplifier
systems, but it is now a bit out of date. I can't remember the reference off
hand - I think it was bull seis soc am. I am away from home at the moment,
so I can't look it up. I am sure that this sort of choice has been described
in psn.quake.net Archives - try putting in a query? Sean Morrissey?
Regards,
Chris Chapman
In a message dated 10/03/2005, jpopelish@........ writes:
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LT1007
OP27
OP07
` Good luck!
OPA604?
LT1028
LT1677
Linear have noise tables for opamps.
These are the commonly used ones for coil / mag=
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systems. The choice very much depends on the source=20
resistance that you need to match.
Coil systems do not normally sense down to=20
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The MAX432 has about the best specificat=
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inputs. They work quite well for DC systems, since they have very low=20
thermal drift.
You can get very significantly improved noise=20
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My biggest difficulty in completing this task has b=
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comparing the chopper types to the others.
The chopper types quoted seem to be all fet=
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input, which have high impedance inputs. The current noise is very low,=
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the voltage noise is significant.
There is a paper from the 90's? comparing=20
noise in seismometer amplifier systems, but it is now a bit out of=
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date. I can't remember the reference off hand - I think it was bull sei=
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this sort of choice has been described in psn.quake.net Archives - try=20
putting in a query? Sean Morrissey?
Regards,
Chris Chapman
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