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Subject: Re: Op amp front end noise - termal variation control
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:26:11 EST
In a message dated 11/03/2005, charles.r.patton@........ writes:
Hi-stability oscillators use proportional oven control techniques such as a=
=20
copper container that has a heater coil and sensing. Then the ckt is inside=
=20
with some insulation. A cheaper variation would be to use aluminum pipe rat=
her=20
than copper =E2=80=93 not as good in the thermal mass dept., but still prett=
y good=20
thermal conductivity.
Hi Charles,
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The thermal mass per unit volume shows much less variation than one=20
might expect - 2.6 for Al and 3.5 for Cu. However, the thermal conductivity=
may=20
be quite a bit lower for alloys than for pure metals. A lot of metal sold a=
s=20
'Aluminum' is actually an Al + Silicon alloy.
A very simple way to reduce air current variation is to put your circuit in=
=20
a small, open-top box and pour in clean, dry, sand. I like #30 silica sand=20
(the fine, white sand you see in hotel lobby ash-tray cans), about $4 for a=
50=20
lb. sack at Home Depot. Also helps with microphonics =E2=80=93 if you have=20=
them. Just=20
pour out the sand to work on the circuit.
Do check to see that the sand is washed free of any salts. The circuit=20
board may be protected with a coat of single pack polyurethane varnish. Thi=
s=20
melts under a soldering iron, so the circuit can be repaired if necessary.=20
Putting the board inside a thin polythene bag is an alternative to to varni=
shing=20
and keeps sand out of any connectors, IC sockets.
Another method is to fill the container with melted paraffin wax - at about=
=20
58 C. This will make the circuit water proof and allows reasonably good=20
thermal contact. A mixture of half and half candle wax and bee's wax may al=
so be=20
used, giving less shrinkage. =20
=20
Regards,
=20
Chris Chapman
In a message dated 11/03/2005, charles.r.patton@........ writes:
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style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20
size=3D2>Hi-stability oscillators use proportional oven control techniques=
such=20
as a copper container that has a heater coil and sensing. Then the ckt is=20
inside with some insulation. A cheaper variation would be to use aluminum=20=
pipe=20
rather than copper =E2=80=93 not as good in the thermal mass dept., but st=
ill pretty=20
good thermal conductivity.
Hi Charles,
The thermal mass per unit volume shows much les=
s=20
variation than one might expect - 2.6 for Al and 3.5 for Cu. However, the=20
thermal conductivity may be quite a bit lower for alloys than for pure=20
metals. A lot of metal sold as 'Aluminum' is actually an Al + Silicon=20
alloy.
<=
FONT=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=
=3D2>A very=20
simple way to reduce air current variation is to put your circuit in a sma=
ll,=20
open-top box and pour in clean, dry, sand. I like #30 silica sand (the fin=
e,=20
white sand you see in hotel lobby ash-tray cans), about $4 for a 50 lb. sa=
ck=20
at Home Depot. Also helps with microphonics =E2=80=93 if you have them. Ju=
st pour out=20
the sand to work on the circuit.
Do check to see that the sand is washed free of=
any=20
salts. The circuit board may be protected with a coat of single pack=20
polyurethane varnish. This melts under a soldering iron, so the circuit=
can=20
be repaired if necessary. Putting the board inside a thin polythene bag is a=
n=20
alternative to to varnishing and keeps sand out of any connectors, IC=20
sockets.
Another method is to fill the container with me=
lted=20
paraffin wax - at about 58 C. This will make the circuit water proof and all=
ows=20
reasonably good thermal contact. A mixture of half and half candle wax and b=
ee's=20
wax may also be used, giving less shrinkage.
Regards,
Chris Chapman
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