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Subject: Re: time issue
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:14:51 EDT


In a message dated 10/04/2005, dickthomas01@............. writes:

Chris has a point, too, about the computer we use  with the detection 
equipment. I doubt many of you use the newest computer  to run WinSDR -- it is 
overkill. But the older computers ARE slow to multitask  and their clocks are not 
that stable. I don't see Larry's GPS board that big  an expense for the accuracy 
it provides plus it is easy to  install.
 
I might also add that variations in dependability  in over-the-air reception 
should be expected as well; there is day-to-night,  sun spot interference -- 
even the arrival of long path-short path signals at  the same time and place 
can be a problem. There is also human created  noise such as power generators 
that carpenters use to power tools at  construction sites, even legal amateur 
radio broadcasting, broken insulators  on nearby power poles and by all means 
drift in the receivers being used  to capture time pulses over the air.

    In my limited experience, new computers seem to be  even less reliable 
for clock accuracy than older ones.
 
    These seem to be more problems that I would  associate with WWV signals. 
WWVB may be a lot more reliable and my 60 KHz  module has a crystal filter. I 
have checked it for operation up to 1800  miles.

GPS is best for no other reason that it operates  in frequencies above the 
normal interferences -- it comes from straight up  there -- with no bending over 
the horizon


    Assuming that you have clear vision to the  satellites and no trees or 
power lines in the way.... But GPS costs roughly 3x  as much as a radio module + 
aerial.
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman





In a message dated 10/04/2005, dickthomas01@............. writes:
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Chris has a point, too, about the compute= r we use=20 with the detection equipment. I doubt many of you use the newest comp= uter=20 to run WinSDR -- it is overkill. But the older computers ARE slow to multi= task=20 and their clocks are not that stable. I don't see Larry's GPS board that b= ig=20 an expense for the accuracy it provides plus it is easy to=20 install.
 
I might also add that variations in depen= dability=20 in over-the-air reception should be expected as well; there is day-to-nigh= t,=20 sun spot interference -- even the arrival of long path-short path signals=20= at=20 the same time and place can be a problem. There is also human created= =20 noise such as power generators that carpenters use to power tools at=20 construction sites, even legal amateur radio broadcasting, broken insulato= rs=20 on nearby power poles and by all means drift in the receivers being u= sed=20 to capture time pulses over the air.
    In my limited experience, new computers seem to= be=20 even less reliable for clock accuracy than older ones.
 
    These seem to be more problems that I would=20 associate with WWV signals. WWVB may be a lot more reliable and my 60 K= Hz=20 module has a crystal filter. I have checked it for operation up to 1800=20 miles.
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GPS is best for no other reason that it o= perates=20 in frequencies above the normal interferences -- it comes from straight up= =20 there -- with no bending over the horizon
    Assuming that you have clear vision to the=20 satellites and no trees or power lines in the way.... But GPS costs roughly=20= 3x=20 as much as a radio module + aerial.
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman

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