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Subject: Simple broadband Seismometer
From: "Dave Nelson" davefnelson@.......
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:38:51 -0700


I have been intrigued by the concept of using a liquid as the seismic =
mass in a broadband instrument for some time. The original thought came =
the idea that a damping plate was being moved through a liquid -- why =
not move the liquid through the damping plate. I  have also studied the =
MET seismometer ( I operate a CME MET vertical seismometer in my home =
system ) and have a moderate understanding of its principals and the =
electrochemistry involved.

To be brief I have been working for some months to develop a credible =
instrument with no moving parts. After a lot of internet searches on the =
related technologies and several learning experiences (read as total =
failure) I came up wit a concept based on well known principals but with =
some unique twists. The instrument uses water( with some off- the- shelf =
additives) in a simple structure that resembles a large electrolytic =
tiltmeter. The baseline of the first instrument was 1 meter. The key was =
to have  the fluid  flow  heavily overdamped to the point of creating  a =
hydraulic integrator . Damping is provided by a small conical seat =
valve.The equivalent orifice when the valve is set for operation is less =
than 1mm.  Electrolytic transducers in the usual bridge arrangement  are =
at each end of a horizontal water column. The electronics consist of a =
LTC1043 switched capacitor front end and two dual op amps -- that's ALL =
..The result is a very credible broadband seismometer (5 Hz to more than =
40 seconds -velocity).

Some key points on performance:

Noise from the electronics is negligible.

Seismic background noise dominates. The day / night variation is clearly =
visible

Two identical instruments side by side see exactly the same signal in =
absolute lock step.

Microseism is clearly visible and can on occasion be the dominant  =
background.

When filtered for short period the output exactly matches an HS-10-1 =
background signal  cycle by cycle.

Telesesmic body  and surface waves are recorded with  sensitivity  and =
fidelity  equal to my MET broadband and other broadband instruments =
reported on the PSN network and  other sources like the Berkeley =
Seismological Laboratory. In one case a seismometer within 100 miles =
matched nearly cycle by cycle for a teleseismic event.

In short my test results are still a bit qualitative but I am convinced =
(much to my surprise and pleasure) that the instrument is in family with =
some very good broadband seismometers.

This is a VERY simple device . Nothing moves but water.=20

The entire thing cost less than 50 bucks from the hardware store =
plumbing department and the local electronics store (except for the =
LTC1043). I have built four systems , Two 1 meter and Two 1/2 meter =
baseline.  Setup takes a little time to get the fluid level adjusted and =
the instrument leveled. A test point provides the level adjustment =
signal to a digital VM. Stabilization can take several hours, once =
stable no attention is required as long as the base is stable. No =
attempt has been made to create a  tiltmeter, the electronics are AC =
coupled with a 6.6 second (40 second period) time constant, slow / small =
 tilt drift  is not a problem.

I will be requesting permission to post events to PSN to back up what I =
have claimed. I will  also be writing a detailed description, with =
pictures, to be  available on request.=20

This is new stuff ,in operation about a month so development is still =
underway. I have also been looking a vertical based on the same basic =
concept,not sure about that yet but it looks possible.

On  a personal note, I am a  retired electrical engineer with extensive =
experience in instrument design , aerospace engineering and program =
management -- this is not quack stuff.

I believe I have something which could be of considerable interest to =
the seismology community and am anxious to share what I have learned. I =
prefer the telephone for detail discussion as I am not a good typist . I =
am from the old school where a secretary did the typing so I am  bit =
slow on the keyboard.
=20
I am looking forward to reading your comments and possibly telling me =
how I reinvented the wheel. (If so, I haven't found that wheel).

Dave Nelson

(The one from LA  --  not Australia)












I have been intrigued by the concept of = using a=20 liquid as the seismic mass in a broadband instrument for some time. The = original=20 thought came the idea that a damping plate was being moved through a = liquid --=20 why not move the liquid through the damping plate. I  have also = studied the=20 MET seismometer ( I operate a CME MET vertical seismometer in = my home=20 system ) and have a moderate understanding of its principals and the=20 electrochemistry involved.
 
To be brief I have been working for = some months to=20 develop a credible instrument with no moving parts. After a lot of = internet=20 searches on the related technologies and several learning experiences = (read as=20 total failure) I came up wit a concept based on well known principals = but with=20 some unique twists. The instrument uses water( with some off- the- shelf = additives) in a simple structure that resembles a large electrolytic = tiltmeter.=20 The baseline of the first instrument was 1 meter. The key was to = have  the=20 fluid  flow  heavily overdamped to the point of creating =  a=20 hydraulic integrator . Damping is provided by a small conical = seat=20 valve.The equivalent orifice when the valve is set for operation = is less=20 than 1mm.  Electrolytic transducers in the usual bridge=20 arrangement  are at each end of a horizontal water column. The = electronics=20 consist of a LTC1043 switched capacitor front end and two dual op = amps --=20 that's ALL .The result is a very = credible=20 broadband seismometer (5 Hz to more than 40 seconds = -velocity).
 
Some key points on = performance:
 
Noise from the electronics is=20 negligible.
 
Seismic background noise dominates. The = day / night=20 variation is clearly visible
 
Two identical instruments side by side = see exactly=20 the same signal in absolute lock step.
 
Microseism is clearly visible and can = on occasion=20 be the dominant  background.
 
When filtered for short period the = output exactly=20 matches an HS-10-1 background signal  cycle by cycle.
 
Telesesmic body  and surface waves = are=20 recorded with  sensitivity  and fidelity  equal to my MET = broadband and other broadband instruments reported on the PSN network = and =20 other sources like the Berkeley Seismological Laboratory. In one = case a=20 seismometer within 100 miles matched nearly cycle by cycle for a = teleseismic=20 event.
 
In short my test results are still a = bit=20 qualitative but I am convinced (much to my surprise and pleasure) that = the=20 instrument is in family with some very good broadband = seismometers.
 
This is a VERY simple device . Nothing = moves but=20 water.
 
The entire thing cost less than 50 = bucks from=20 the hardware store plumbing department and the local electronics store = (except=20 for the LTC1043). I have built four systems , Two 1 meter and Two 1/2 = meter=20 baseline.  Setup takes a little time to get the fluid level = adjusted and=20 the instrument leveled. A test point provides the level adjustment = signal to a=20 digital VM. Stabilization can take several hours, once stable = no=20 attention is required as long as the base is stable. No attempt has been = made to=20 create a  tiltmeter, the electronics are AC coupled with a 6.6 = second (40=20 second period) time constant, slow / small  tilt drift  = is not a=20 problem.
 
I will be requesting permission to post = events to=20 PSN to back up what I have claimed. I will  also be writing a=20 detailed description, with pictures, to be  available on = request.=20
 
This is new stuff ,in operation about a = month so=20 development is still underway. I have also been looking a vertical = based on=20 the same basic concept,not sure about that yet but it looks=20 possible.
 
On  a personal note, I am a  = retired=20 electrical engineer with extensive experience in instrument design , = aerospace=20 engineering and program management -- this is not quack = stuff.
 
I believe I have something which could = be of=20 considerable interest to the seismology community and am anxious to = share what I=20 have learned. I prefer the telephone for detail discussion as I am not a = good=20 typist . I am from the old school where a secretary did the typing=20 so I am  bit slow on the keyboard.
 
I am looking forward to reading your = comments and=20 possibly telling me how I reinvented the wheel. (If so, I haven't found = that=20 wheel).
 
Dave Nelson
 
(The one from LA  --  not=20 Australia)
 
 
 
 
 
 

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