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Subject: Re: Simple broadband Seismometer
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 21:57:01 EDT


In a message dated 01/09/2005, ian@........... writes:

Hi,
one assumption I made was that the mean signal, generated by the  mean mass 
is subtracted and you are then only measuring the changes.  If  some piezo 
sensor can withstand a load generated by 44 Kg (2 supports), then 2  of them might 
give the required signal.  By electrically differencing the  signals from the 
2 piezo sensors, the remainder is the changing mass +  noise.  Just a 
thought...
Hi Ian,
 
    I don't really see why you need such a large  pipe, when something nearer 
1" would do fine. If you put on larger diameter  end pots, you increase the 
period.
    Trying to match up two sensors allowing  for temperature coefficients and 
drifts just doesn't work to better than  about 0.1%. 
    When it is dead easy to measure water levels to  microns, why bother with 
weight sensors? The inexpensive piezo sensors  drift in output voltage with 
temperature.
    There re plenty of problems in making precision  measurements. 'Doing 
things the hard way' is just plain dumb.
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman








In a message dated 01/09/2005, ian@........... writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Hi,
one assumption I made was that the mean signal, generated=20= by the=20 mean mass is subtracted and you are then only measuring the changes. = If=20 some piezo sensor can withstand a load generated by 44 Kg (2 supports), th= en 2=20 of them might give the required signal.  By electrically differencing= the=20 signals from the 2 piezo sensors, the remainder is the changing mass +=20 noise.  Just a thought...
Hi Ian,
 
    I don't really see why you need such a larg= e=20 pipe, when something nearer 1" would do fine. If you put on larger diam= eter=20 end pots, you increase the period.
    Trying to match up two sensors allowing=20 for temperature coefficients and drifts just doesn't work to better tha= n=20 about 0.1%.
    When it is dead easy to measure water level= s to=20 microns, why bother with weight sensors? The inexpensive piezo sensors=20 drift in output voltage with temperature.
    There re plenty of problems in making preci= sion=20 measurements. 'Doing things the hard way' is just plain dumb.
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman
 

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