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Subject: Re: $200 microbarograph first light
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:49:34 EST


In a message dated 09/01/2006, DSaum@............ writes:

System  Bandpass: 0.01 to 4 Hz.
High-Pass filter: ~100 sec or 0.01 Hz using  volume/capillary tube.
Low pass filter: 4 Hz anti-alias, 8 pole Bessel  filter (MAX4701)
    This gives a drop of 40 dB at 4 Hz, an average  signal delay of 0.2 sec 
and 0.35 sec peak. 

Differential pressure sensor: silicon, bridge type, 1"wc  (DUXL01D)
Pres Resolution: ~0.004 Pa - possibly lower depending  offsets
Range: +/- 120 Pa (32768 times pressure  resolution)
    For a 5 V supply, this sensor has an output of 6 mV  per inch water and a 
span of 6 mV. You might do better with a DUXL05D. This  has an output of 4.5 
mV per inch water and a span of 22.5 mV.
 
    1" water gauge corresponds to a pitot speed of  about 45 mph. This does 
not leave much, if any, safety margin for storm  conditions.

Amp: instrumentation,1000x,single supply,micropower,RTR out(INA122P) 
 
    While the INA122 has rail to rail output, it also  has a 0.1 to 10 Hz 
noise of 2 micro V pp. This is poor in comparison with an  INA118 which has a 
noise level of 0.28 micro V pp - roughly 1/7th. There are  other low noise opamps 
available.

Power: ~2ma 5VDC, derived from PC serial port, no exernal power  supply
Regulator: 5VDC, low dropout micropower, precision (LP2950-5.0)   
Firmware: ADC sampling at ~35 SPS, zero drift tracking ~5 min TC.
Serial  Out: RS232, 9600 baud, 8N1, ascii records, -32767 to +32767
Wind Spatial  Averaging: array of micro-perforated garden tubing 
Data Log/Display:  freeware PC AMASEIS seismic log/analysis software

Improvements? Offset  voltages in the instrumentation amp and pressure
sensor seem to limit the  maximum gain.  I may try a variable amp reference
voltage to eliminate  these offsets.
 

Use the average signal level as your  zero? 

Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman

 





In a message dated 09/01/2006, DSaum@............ writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>System=20 Bandpass: 0.01 to 4 Hz.
High-Pass filter: ~100 sec or 0.01 Hz using=20 volume/capillary tube.
Low pass filter: 4 Hz anti-alias, 8 pole Bessel=20 filter (MAX4701)
    This gives a drop of 40 dB at 4 Hz, an average=20 signal delay of 0.2 sec and 0.35 sec peak.
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Differential pressure sensor: silicon, bridge type, 1"wc=20 (DUXL01D)
Pres Resolution: ~0.004 Pa - possibly lower depending=20 offsets
Range: +/- 120 Pa (32768 times pressure=20 resolution)
    For a 5 V supply, this sensor has an output of=20= 6 mV=20 per inch water and a span of 6 mV. You might do better with a DUXL05D.=20= This=20 has an output of 4.5 mV per inch water and a span of 22.5 mV.
 
    1" water gauge corresponds to a pitot speed of=20 about 45 mph. This does not leave much, if any, safety margin for storm= =20 conditions.

Amp: instrumentation,1000x,single supply,micropower,RTR out(INA= 122P)=20
 
    While the INA122 has rail to rail output, it al= so=20 has a 0.1 to 10 Hz noise of 2 micro V pp. This is poor in comparison with an= =20 INA118 which has a noise level of 0.28 micro V pp - roughly 1/7th. There are= =20 other low noise opamps available.

Power: ~2ma 5VDC, derived from PC serial port, no exernal power=20 supply
Regulator: 5VDC, low dropout micropower, precision (LP2950-5.0)&nb= sp;=20
Firmware: ADC sampling at ~35 SPS, zero drift tracking ~5 min TC.
Ser= ial=20 Out: RS232, 9600 baud, 8N1, ascii records, -32767 to +32767
Wind Spatial=20 Averaging: array of micro-perforated garden tubing
Data Log/Display:=20 freeware PC AMASEIS seismic log/analysis software

Improvements? Offse= t=20 voltages in the instrumentation amp and pressure
sensor seem to limit the= =20 maximum gain.  I may try a variable amp reference
voltage to elimina= te=20 these offsets.
 
    Use the average signal level as your=20 zero?
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman
 

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