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Subject: Re: seismic vault
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:53:17 EDT
In a message dated 20/06/2006 15:26:09 GMT Daylight Time, jonfr500@.........
writes:
I plan to move my geophone out, but I need to do it properly. So it
doesn't get flooded with water and gets damaged because of that.
I want to build this type of seismic vault,
http://www.iris.iris.edu/passcal/Manual/rtfm.sa11.2.html (see pdf file
for picture). There is a lot of water because of a snow during the winter
that I need to protect my geophone from. If there are any other types of
seismic vaults that I might consider, please let me know.
Hi Jon,
This particular vault is NOT WATERPROOF and you can expect it to flood
when the snow melts and during heavy rain. Sorry, but I am near certain that
it will NOT be satisfactory for your location in Iceland. The geophone case
will float if the water level rises.
Your geophones are enclosed in a waterproof plastic case. It is quite
easy to seal both the case and the cable glands with silicone rubber paste. You
need to buy the sort of silicone rubber which does NOT smell strongly of
acetic / formic acid. You could then wrap the case in thin plastic foam sheet
and put the whole lot inside polythene bags tied around the cable, to protect
it from freezing. You could align the sensor and bury it in sand at the bottom
of a hole. You might need to put a weight / bricks / rocks on top of the
case to prevent it moving if submerged.
Another alternative might be to use a plastic drain manifold. These are
vertical plastic tubes with blanked off connections for horizontal drain
pipes. Some of them can be completely sealed - check before you buy one. At least
two sizes are available, but they are not cheap.
You could fit a tank connector and plastic water pipe onto one of the
blanking plates to house the geophone cable. You could partially fill the main
case with dry sand and mount the geophone case on top on a glass or glazed
ceramic disk.
Fit a plastic reducing connector to the end of the water pipe and seal
the tube to the cable with black 'Self Amalgamating Tape'. You stretch the
tape to tension and thin it and wrap overlapping turns over the joint. This
provides an airtight and UV / solar resistant seal. You should also seal the end
of the multiway cable with silicone rubber paste. This prevents air pressure
changes carrying damp air into the cable and prevents corrosion
There are a number of installations described on the Guralp website
See _http://www.guralp.net/general/customers/_
(http://www.guralp.net/general/customers/) and for a waterlogged site
_http://www.guralp.net/articles/20040400-casestudy-eskdalemuir/support_
(http://www.guralp.net/articles/20040400-casestudy-eskdalemuir/support)
> Is Environmental Stability (temperature & humidity) within the vault an
issue?
I don't think it is going to be a problem inside the vault. Since I need
to place it at least 2 meters below the surface (if I can even get that
deep), because of the winter frost where I live.
I doubt if you will need to go to a depth of 2 m, but it is possible. I
would have expected 1 m to be adequate. Do you have any idea of the freezing
level in your soil? Can you look up the minimum soil temperatures that you
can expect at various depths? The Icelandic Meteorological Service should have
daily soil temperatures at several depths, if not at more frequent intervals.
You might send an EMail to _halldor@......... (mailto:halldor@......... ? The
company which supplies your drinking water should also have figures - they
need to keep the supplies free of ice in winter.
Regatds,
Chris Chapman
In a message dated 20/06/2006 15:26:09 GMT Daylight Time,=20
jonfr500@......... writes:
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to move my geophone out, but I need to do it properly. So it
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flooded with water and gets damaged because of that.
I want to buil=
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this type of seismic=20
vault,
http://www.iris.iris.edu/passcal/Manual/rtfm.sa11.2.html (see pd=
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file
for picture). There is a lot of water because of a snow during the=
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winter
that I need to protect my geophone from. If there are any other=20
types of
seismic vaults that I might consider, please let me=20
know.
Hi Jon,
This particular vault is NOT WATERPROOF and you=
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expect it to flood when the snow melts and during heavy rain. Sorry, bu=
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am near certain that it will NOT be satisfactory for your location in=20
Iceland. The geophone case will float if the water level rises.
Your geophones are enclosed in a waterproof pla=
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case. It is quite easy to seal both the case and the cable glands with silic=
one=20
rubber paste. You need to buy the sort of silicone rubber which does NOT sme=
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strongly of acetic / formic acid. You could then wrap the case in thin plast=
ic=20
foam sheet and put the whole lot inside polythene bags tied around=
the=20
cable, to protect it from freezing. You could align the sensor and bury it i=
n=20
sand at the bottom of a hole. You might need to put a weight / bricks / rock=
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top of the case to prevent it moving if submerged.
Another alternative might be to use a plastic d=
rain=20
manifold. These are vertical plastic tubes with blanked off connections=
for=20
horizontal drain pipes. Some of them can be completely sealed - check before=
you=20
buy one. At least two sizes are available, but they are not cheap.
You could fit a tank connector and plastic=
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water pipe onto one of the blanking plates to house the geophone=20
cable. You could partially fill the main case with dry sand and mount the=20
geophone case on top on a glass or glazed ceramic disk.
Fit a plastic reducing connector to the end of=20=
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water pipe and seal the tube to the cable with black 'Self Amalgamating Tape=
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You stretch the tape to tension and thin it and wrap overlapping turns=20=
over=20
the joint. This provides an airtight and UV / solar resistant seal. You=
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should also seal the end of the multiway cable with silicone rubber paste. T=
his=20
prevents air pressure changes carrying damp air into the cable and prevents=20
corrosion
There are a number of installations described o=
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the Guralp website
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style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=
=3D2>> Is=20
Environmental Stability (temperature & humidity) within the vault an=20
issue?
I don't think it is going to be a problem inside the vault.=20
Since I need
to place it at least 2 meters below the surface (if I can=20=
even=20
get that
deep), because of the winter frost where I live.
I doubt if you will need to go to a depth of 2=20
m, but it is possible. I would have expected 1 m to be adequate. Do you=
=20
have any idea of the freezing level in your soil? Can you look up the minimu=
m=20
soil temperatures that you can expect at various depths? The Icelandic=20
Meteorological Service should have daily soil temperatures at several depths=
, if=20
not at more frequent intervals. You might send an EMail to
halldor@........? The company which sup=
plies=20
your drinking water should also have figures - they need to keep the supplie=
s=20
free of ice in winter.
Regatds,
Chris Chapman
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