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Subject: Re: OT: an alternative use for a geophone
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:01:01 EDT


In a message dated 2006/07/26, gmvoeth@........... writes:

> has the tenacity to find the necessary raw materials

Hi there,

       See http://www.jclahr.com/science/psn/chapman/piezo/PiezoSensAmp.jpg
       Not too difficult, more a question of knowing what to look for and=20
where to find it.

Materials

Double sided 1/16" thick glass circuit board 2" wide x 3.5" long - most=20
Electronic's suppliers

Spacers 30 mm long x 3 mm tapped Farnell No 473-6047 Squires No 600-950
threaded standoff 1818K-ND 1.25" + 6-32 bolts + a couple of washers from=20
http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T053/1454-1457.pdf=20

Bolts Brass 10 mm long x 3 mm dia Pan head // 6-32 x 3/8" US Home Depot /=20
Lowes
        Brass 10 mm long  x 4 mm dia Pan head // 8-32 x 3/8" US Home Depot /=
=20
Lowes

Brass foil 5 thou from K&S=20

Brass 1/4" x 1/8" rectangular tube x 1.7" from K&S=20

Brass bar 1/2" OD x 1.85" =3D 4.7 cm for 50 gm

Adhesive Holdtite ST3295 two part acrylic adhesive Squires There are several=
=20
suppliers of similar products in the USA

Piezo disk 44 mm OD central sensor 25 mm OD Capacity 40 nF min typical 65 nF
Farnell No 500-3301 No 9843744,=20
Digikey 1N3595 diodes and PZT disks  p1421 for piezo elements - 102-1170-ND=20
44mm OD, 70 nF at $1.62=20
www.mouser.com 1N3595 diodes and PZT disks p1270 for piezo elements=20
665-KBI-4406 44mm OD, 70nF at $1.69 665-APS-100 50mm OD, 65nF at $2.05=20
Maplin YU83E 41 mm =A30.49

Damping
Magnet NdFeB 10 mm OD x 5mm high  Maplin YA29G  KJ Magnetics and many others=
 =20
                                            =20
Copper bar 5/8" OD

Alternative Damping
As an alternative to magnetic damping you can mount a brass L flange on top=20
of the V top suspension and attach either Sorbothane sheet or polyurethane f=
oam=20
to it and to both side glass boards.
Sorbothane from EdSci No. 3037000  Very good
Polyurethane Foam lightest grade - needs replacing annually - keep away from=
=20
light / sunshine

       You will need to drill and tap the brass mass / rod. This can be done=
=20
with a press drill, but it is much easier in a lathe.. To square off the end=
s=20
of the rod, file roughly square, then mount the rod in the chuck and press=20
lightly onto a flat file on the baseplate and then onto emery paper. Mark an=
d=20
centre the end holes, clamp the rod vertically in a vice, drill and tap to s=
uit=20
the bolts.  You may also need to 'true up' the head of the lower screw befor=
e=20
you solder it.
       To buy the brass and copper bars, you may need to find a non ferrous=20
metals stockist or a hobby shop which deals in metals. I have a local metals=
=20
supermarket and periodically visit it to find 'offcuts'.

Digikey USA and UK www.digikey.com=20
Edmund Scientific USA http://www.edsci.com/=20
Farnell UK & USA http://www.farnell.com/
Holdtite UK http://www.holdtite.com/
KJ Magnetics USA http://www.kjmagnetics.com
K&S Metals Hobby suppliers USA & UK www.ksmetals.com
Maplin UK www.maplin.co.uk
Mouser USA www.mouser.com
Squires UK www.squirestools.com

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman
In a message dated 2006/07/26, gmvo=
eth@........... writes:

has the tenacity to find the ne= cessary raw materials


Hi there,

       See http://www.jclahr.com/science/psn/c= hapman/piezo/PiezoSensAmp.jpg
       Not too difficult, more a question of k= nowing what to look for and where to find it.

Materials

Double sided 1/16" thick glass circuit board 2" wide x 3.5" long - mo= st Electronic's suppliers

Spacers 30 mm long x 3 mm tapped Farnell No 473-6047 Squires No 600-950
threaded standoff 1818K-ND 1.25" + 6-32 bolts + a couple of washers f= rom http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T053/1454-1457.pdf

Bolts Brass 10 mm long x 3 mm dia Pan head // 6-32 x 3/8" US Home Depot / Lo= wes
        Brass 10 mm long  x 4 mm dia= Pan head // 8-32 x 3/8" US Home Depot / Lowes

Brass foil 5 thou from K&S

Brass 1/4" x 1/8" rectangular tube x 1.7" from K&S

Brass bar 1/2" OD x 1.85" =3D 4.7 cm for 50 gm

Adhesive Holdtite ST3295 two part acrylic adhesive Squires There are=20= several suppliers of similar products in the USA

Piezo disk 44 mm OD central sensor 25 mm OD Capacity 40 nF min typical 65 nF=
Farnell No 500-3301 No 9843744,
Digikey
1N3595 diodes and PZT disks  p1421 for piezo elements - 1= 02-1170-ND 44mm OD, 70 nF at $1.62
www.mouser.com 1N3595 diodes and PZT disks p1270 for piezo elements 665-KBI-= 4406 44mm OD, 70nF at $1.69 665-APS-100 50mm OD, 65nF at $2.05
Maplin YU83E 41 mm =A30.49

Damping
Magnet NdFeB 10 mm OD x 5mm high  Maplin YA29G  KJ Magnetics and m= any others           =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;         
Copper bar 5/8" OD

Alternative Damping
As an alternative to magnetic damping you can mount a brass L flange on top=20= of the V top suspension and attach either Sorbothane sheet or polyurethane f= oam to it and to both side glass boards.
Sorbothane from EdSci No. 3037000  Very good
Polyurethane Foam lightest grade - needs replacing annually - keep away from= light / sunshine

       You will need to drill and tap the bras= s mass / rod. This can be done with a press drill, but it is much easier in=20= a lathe.. To square off the ends of the rod, file roughly square, then mount= the rod in the chuck and press lightly onto a flat file on the baseplate an= d then onto emery paper. Mark and centre the end holes, clamp the rod vertic= ally in a vice, drill and tap to suit the bolts.  You may also need to=20= 'true up' the head of the lower screw before you solder it.
       To buy the brass and copper bars, you m= ay need to find a non ferrous metals stockist or a hobby shop which deals in= metals. I have a local metals supermarket and periodically visit it to find= 'offcuts'.

Digikey USA and UK www.digikey.com
Edmund Scientific USA http://www.edsci.com/
Farnell UK & USA http://www.farnell.com/
Holdtite UK http://www.holdtite.com/
KJ Magnetics USA http://www.kjmagnetics.com
K&S Metals Hobby suppliers USA & UK www.ksmetals.com
Maplin UK www.maplin.co.uk
Mouser USA www.mouser.com
Squires UK www.squirestools.com

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman

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