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Subject: Re: school project
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:43:35 EST


In a message dated 2006/11/30, tchannel@.............. writes:

> Nothing appears on the helicorer, except earthquakes, during the night.  So 
> I don't think the sensor is sticking etc, at night all is working perfectly.

Hi Ted,

       Increase the gain until you see the 5/6 second microseisms at maybe 50 
counts (I normally run at about 200 counts)

> The noise doesn't start exactly on the minute, each morning, I see no 
> pattern, other than the first noise starts around 8:37 am all day even on Sundays 
> and Holidays.  
> There is some sort of pumping? station one mile away, I don't even know what 
> it is but it has a large engine on a concrete slab, and a block building 
> next to the outdoor equipment.  Maybe I should drive over there at 8:33am, and 
> see if the ground shakes.

       I don't know what you are picking up, but this seems a likely 
candidate. Can you ring them up and ask when the work and what they do? Is there a 
guard on the entrance?

> Chris, Now on the zero length spring, do I understand that if I hang the 
> spring, add enough wt to start it to extend, then add 2# and measure, then add 
> another 2# and measure, continue doing this.........say the first 2# expanded 
> 1" the next 2# expanded another 1"
> If I did this 5 times, 2+2+2+2+2= 10#  The expansions would be 
> 1"+1"+1"+1"+1"= 5"?
> In other words the same force would be required to move the same distance 
> thought out the length of expansion?

       Correct. This is substantially true except at very large extensions 
when the wire spiral changes.

> If so, is this why they use a zero length springs on the vertical sensors 
> so movement is uniform?
> The length is not so important 20" vs 28" but it need so pull evenly, vs 
> easy at first and get harder at the end?

       The zero length spring effect is used so that the length of a 
triangular side is proportional to the force. This completes the traingle of forces to 
give an infinite period device.

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman
In a me=
ssage dated 2006/11/30, tchannel@.............. writes:

Nothing appears on the helicore= r, except earthquakes, during the night.  So I don't think the sensor i= s sticking etc, at night all is working perfectly.


Hi Ted,

       Increase the gain until you see the 5/6= second microseisms at maybe 50 counts (I normally run at about 200 counts)<= /FONT>=

The noise doesn't start exactly= on the minute, each morning, I see no pattern, other than the first noise s= tarts around 8:37 am all day even on Sundays and Holidays. 
There is some sort of pumping? station one mile away, I don't even know what= it is but it has a large engine on a concrete slab, and a block building ne= xt to the outdoor equipment.  Maybe I should drive over there at 8:33am= , and see if the ground shakes.


       I don't know what you are picking up,=20= but this seems a likely candidate. Can you ring them up and ask when the wor= k and what they do? Is there a guard on the entrance?

Chris, Now on the zero length s= pring, do I understand that if I hang the spring, add enough wt to start it=20= to extend, then add 2# and measure, then add another 2# and measure, continu= e doing this.........say the first 2# expanded 1" the next 2# expanded anoth= er 1"
If I did this 5 times, 2+2+2+2+2=3D 10#  The expansions would be 1"+1"+= 1"+1"+1"=3D 5"?
In other words the same force would be required to move the same distance th= ought out the length of expansion?


       Correct. This is substantially true ex= cept at very large extensions when the wire spiral changes.

If so, is this why they use a z= ero length springs on the vertical sensors so movement is uniform?
The length is not so important 20" vs 28" but it need so pull evenly, vs eas= y at first and get harder at the end?


       The zero length spring effect is used s= o that the length of a triangular side is proportional to the force. This co= mpletes the traingle of forces to give an infinite period device.

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman

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