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Subject: Re: Noise
From: "tchannel" tchannel@..............
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:19:16 -0700


Hi Chris, You know these are great suggestions....I can't rotate the =
sensor, where it is located, but if I could???????
I do have another sensor I could set up and rotate.  I could perhaps =
setup a microphone/ amp/ headset, to see if I could pick up the noise =
and then isolate its direction.  I tried the am radio but could not hear =
the noise, I will try that again, at different frequencies.   Ted
    ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ChrisAtUpw@..........
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Noise


  In a message dated 2006/11/30, tchannel@.............. writes:


    Hi Jim,  At night time the noise stops as suddenly as it begins, I =
think it stops at around 4:30pm, starts at 8:35 to 8:50am.  Really quiet =
at night,
    I live 1/4 mile from a school, and crossing lights, but the noise =
continues during Sat, Sun and Holidays when the school is inactive.
    I did remove the magnet during the noise, and the trace was dead =
quite, all the noise stopped and started again when I replaced the =
magnet over the coil, so I don't think it is RFI.=20


  Hi Ted,

         OK. Can you identify any 'typical sequence' types of signal?  =
Can you log the ~amplitudes?

         Now you have evidence that the noise isn't RFI or pickup from =
the house wiring, can you re-orient your sensor, say 20 degrees at a =
time at first, to determine the direction that it is coming from? If it =
is an external fixed source, there should be a direction which gives a =
minimum response.

         It can be quite difficult to identify a source just from a =
seismic trace. If it is a local source, there are likely to be a lot of =
associated high frequency signals. Do you have a geophone, or a piezo =
accelerometer, which you can use as a sensor to drive an audio amplifier =
/ headphone system? Sounds carry quite a long way in the soil. I can =
pick up car tyre noise on the main road at about 1 km. This could help =
to direct your search.

         Regards,








Hi Chris, You know these are great = suggestions....I=20 can't rotate the sensor, where it is located, but if I = could???????
I do have another sensor I could set up = and=20 rotate.  I could perhaps setup a microphone/ amp/ headset, to see = if I=20 could pick up the noise and then isolate its direction.  I tried = the am=20 radio but could not hear the noise, I will try that again, at different=20 frequencies.   Ted
  ----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 ChrisAtUpw@.......
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Thursday, November 30, = 2006 4:21=20 PM
Subject: Re: Noise

In a=20 message dated 2006/11/30, tchannel@..............=20 writes:

Hi Jim,  At night time the noise stops as suddenly = as it=20 begins, I think it stops at around 4:30pm, starts at 8:35 to = 8:50am. =20 Really quiet at night,

I live 1/4 mile from a school, and crossing lights, = but the=20 noise continues during Sat, Sun and Holidays when the school is=20 inactive.
I did remove the magnet during the noise, and the = trace was=20 dead quite, all the noise stopped and started again when I replaced = the=20 magnet over the coil, so I don't think it is RFI.

Hi=20 Ted,

       OK. Can you identify = any=20 'typical sequence' types of signal?  Can you log the=20 ~amplitudes?

       Now you have = evidence=20 that the noise isn't RFI or pickup from the house wiring, can you = re-orient=20 your sensor, say 20 degrees at a time at first, to determine the = direction=20 that it is coming from? If it is an external fixed source, there = should be a=20 direction which gives a minimum=20 response.

       It can be quite=20 difficult to identify a source just from a seismic trace. If it is a = local=20 source, there are likely to be a lot of associated high frequency = signals. Do=20 you have a geophone, or a piezo accelerometer, which you can use as a = sensor=20 to drive an audio amplifier / headphone system? Sounds carry quite a = long way=20 in the soil. I can pick up car tyre noise on the main road at about 1 = km. This=20 could help to direct your = search.

      =20 Regards,

       Chris = Chapman
=20

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