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Subject: Re: Zero-length spring
From: "Jerry Payton" gpayton880@.......
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 08:50:38 -0600


Try the Wikipedia for a definition:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton Of 
course, John can answer too.

Best Wishes,
Jerry Payton
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: chief.cook.nz
  To: psn-l@..............
  Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:30 AM
  Subject: Re: Zero-length spring


  Hi John
  In this formula a NEWTON is what?  or how or why is called a NEWTON the 
rest
  I understand so a

  NEWTON:- =

  Cheers Tamati
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  From the Castle of Tom, Robyn and the Dog

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "John or Jan Lahr" 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Zero-length spring


  > At 10:29 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote:
  >>Hi John,  I am not too good at math, could you please plug-in some
  >>examples/numbers for this formula so I can understand it better? I think
  >>its k that I am unclear of.  I understand the rest. Thanks, Ted
  >>MgA = kSY/(SA)
  >>
  >>M = kY/(Ag)
  >
  > k is the spring constant.  In this example I'm using k = 2 newtons/cm
  >
  > M is the mass
  > Y is the height of the mast
  > A is the length of the boom
  > g is the acceleration of gravity
  >
  > The exact numbers don't really matter - the point being that the mass 
will
  > be stable at any angle of the boom.
  >
  > There are problems of trying to actually build this device, because 
slight
  > changes in k with temperature will cause instability.  Even without a
  > zero-length spring, one can extend the period by reducing the height of
  > the mast.  However, you will soon discover that this will also lead to
  > instability if pushed to too long a period.
  >
  > Cheers,
  > John
  >
  >
  >
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Try the Wikipedia for a definition:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki= /Newton Of=20 course, John can answer too.
 
Best Wishes,
Jerry Payton
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 chief.cook.nz
Sent: Saturday, December 02, = 2006 8:30=20 AM
Subject: Re: Zero-length = spring

Hi John
In this formula a NEWTON is what?  or = how or=20 why is called a NEWTON the rest
I understand so a

NEWTON:-=20 =3D

Cheers Tamati
From the Castle of Tamati, Hinemoa and = Karauwa the=20 Dog
From the Castle of Tom, Robyn and the Dog

I'm Just a = Stone's=20 Throw Away:- NZ-021-150-33-59 or=20 = NZ-07-855-0195
         &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;       =20 Bush Telegragh:- chief.cook.nz@............=
           &nb= sp;          =20 My Regular Pitstop:-=20 = Tamati
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;     =20 P.O.BOX
19-356=20 = CENTRAL
          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;            =       =20 = HAMILTON
          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;      =20 NEW
ZEALAND
----- Original Message -----
From: "John or Jan = Lahr"=20 <JohnJan@........>
To: <psn-l@..............>
Sent= :=20 Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Zero-length=20 spring


> At 10:29 PM 11/29/2006, you = wrote:
>>Hi=20 John,  I am not too good at math, could you please plug-in some=20
>>examples/numbers for this formula so I can understand it = better? I=20 think
>>its k that I am unclear of.  I understand the = rest.=20 Thanks, Ted
>>MgA =3D kSY/(SA)
>>
>>M =3D=20 kY/(Ag)
>
> k is the spring constant.  In this = example I'm=20 using k =3D 2 newtons/cm
>
> M is the mass
> Y is = the height=20 of the mast
> A is the length of the boom
> g is the = acceleration=20 of gravity
>
> The exact numbers don't really matter - the = point=20 being that the mass will
> be stable at any angle of the=20 boom.
>
> There are problems of trying to actually build = this=20 device, because slight
> changes in k with temperature will = cause=20 instability.  Even without a
> zero-length spring, one can = extend=20 the period by reducing the height of
> the mast.  However, = you will=20 soon discover that this will also lead to
> instability if = pushed to=20 too long a period.
>
> Cheers,
>=20 John
>
>
>
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