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Subject: Re: Vertical Sensor
From: "tchannel" tchannel@..............
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:06:01 -0700


Chris,  By "an opinion" I guess I was thinking about the best hinge to =
use.  I have seen fishing line, thin metal hinges, wire hinges and knife =
points.
I know I would need lateral stability, so the arm would not bob side to =
side, but I also know it would need to have minimal friction.
On the AS1 it looks as if they just use a wide knife point approach.   =
Thanks, Ted
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ChrisAtUpw@..........
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Vertical Sensor


  In a message dated 2006/12/12, tchannel@.............. writes:


    Chris, I was very pleased with the coil/magnet arrangement you =
suggested, the one which sandwiched the four magnets between two plates. =
It was simple and effective. If I were to make another sensor, this time =
a vertical like the AS1, would you suggest the same approach, but =
modified for vertical rather than horz? Or to use the horseshoe magnet =
and coil? I am sure both would work, but I would like opinions on it.


  Hi Ted,

         Entirely up to you. I am not quite sure what you want as 'an =
opinion'?

         Quad 1" square NdFeB magnets on mild steel backing plates are =
likely to give you a much higher magnetic field than a U form Alnico =
magnet. They are almost certainly cheaper. Large new Alnico magnets are =
now quite expensive.=20
         If you wind a rectangular form coil, you can get a highly =
linear output and you won't need more than ~3,000 turns. Also, you get =
very little external stray field. Put the coil on the arm and the magnet =
assembly on the baseplate.=20
         Don't put any ferromagnetic material or a magnet on a =
seismometer arm - this makes the system very noisy.

         Just an opinion..... You have my drawings....








Chris,  By "an opinion" I guess I = was thinking=20 about the best hinge to use.  I have seen fishing line, thin metal = hinges,=20 wire hinges and knife points.
I know I would need lateral stability, = so the arm=20 would not bob side to side, but I also know it would need to have = minimal=20 friction.
On the AS1 it looks as if they just use = a wide=20 knife point approach.   Thanks, Ted
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ChrisAtUpw@.......
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 = 10:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: Vertical = Sensor

In a=20 message dated 2006/12/12, tchannel@..............=20 writes:

Chris, I was very pleased with the coil/magnet = arrangement you=20 suggested, the one which sandwiched the four magnets between two = plates. It=20 was simple and effective. If I were to make another sensor, this = time a=20 vertical like the AS1, would you suggest the same approach, but = modified for=20 vertical rather than horz? Or to use the horseshoe magnet and coil? = I am=20 sure both would work, but I would like opinions on it.


Hi=20 Ted,

       Entirely up to you. I = am not=20 quite sure what you want as 'an=20 opinion'?

       Quad 1" square = NdFeB=20 magnets on mild steel backing plates are likely to give you a much = higher=20 magnetic field than a U form Alnico magnet. They are almost certainly = cheaper.=20 Large new Alnico magnets are now quite expensive.=20
       If you wind a rectangular = form coil,=20 you can get a highly linear output and you won't need more than ~3,000 = turns.=20 Also, you get very little external stray field. Put the coil on the = arm and=20 the magnet assembly on the baseplate. =
      =20 Don't put any ferromagnetic material or a magnet on a seismometer arm = - this=20 makes the system very = noisy.

       Just=20 an opinion..... You have my=20 drawings....

       Chris = Chapman
=20

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