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Subject: Re: Period and Hinges
From: Brett Nordgren Brett3mr@.............
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:33:44 -0400


At 04:16 PM 8/1/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi All,    Two new questions from me today.
>
>

>I did a simple test, using various hinges, foil, wire, razor blades and 
>eyebolts.   I could and did see some difference in how long a pendulum 
>would swing free.  I just moved the pendulum 6" and let it go counted the 
>cycles until it stopped.
>Not very accurate, but I could see only about 20 percent different, 
>between what I would call good and better hinges.
>I am not suggesting this test tell the whole story.   So if there is a 
>study I would like to see it or hear about your own testing.   I was 
>surprised there was not a greater different on my test.

Ted,

One possibility that I have heard about in connection with high-performance 
pendulum clocks, is that the mounting points need to be absolutely 
solid.  There can be a considerable loss of energy through 'mushy' 
supports, which might make good hinges appear to perform nearly as badly as 
poor ones.

I would guess that a concrete wall would make a pretty solid mount, though 
a wood one apparently does not.  Or perhaps a rigid steel frame sitting on 
a concrete floor might be good.

Perhaps a year ago someone on the List was doing something similar and 
getting very long decay times, as I recall.

Regards,
Brett


At 04:16 PM 8/1/2007 -0600, you wrote:
Hi All,    Two new questions from me today.
 
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I did a simple test, using various hinges, foil, wire, razor blades and eyebolts.   I could and did see some difference in how long a pendulum would swing free.  I just moved the pendulum 6" and let it go counted the cycles until it stopped.
Not very accurate, but I could see only about 20 percent different, between what I would call good and better hinges.
I am not suggesting this test tell the whole story.   So if there is a study I would like to see it or hear about your own testing.   I was surprised there was not a greater different on my test.

Ted,

One possibility that I have heard about in connection with high-performance pendulum clocks, is that the mounting points need to be absolutely solid.  There can be a considerable loss of energy through 'mushy' supports, which might make good hinges appear to perform nearly as badly as poor ones.

I would guess that a concrete wall would make a pretty solid mount, though a wood one apparently does not.  Or perhaps a rigid steel frame sitting on a concrete floor might be good.

Perhaps a year ago someone on the List was doing something similar and getting very long decay times, as I recall.

Regards,
Brett


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