G'day Geoff and Dave

Short of using Altium designer software from Altium I use a small and 
FREE schematic and PCB design software from

www.expresspcb.com

It is easy to use and the schematics can be linked to PCBs for easy 
layout ie. no mixed up tracks. The ExpressPCB company even makes the 
boards you design. See the website for more details.

Give the program a try it produces a very good schematic diagram and you 
can even create your on library of components for the ones not in the 
ExpressPCB library.

Hope this helps

Cheers
Phil Schmidt

Geoff wrote:
> Hello Dave Nelson,
> 
> The only reason I say gif is the best is because
> the Europeans seem to like gif best with
> thir linux systems and since I can deal with
> most anything I think we might humor
> them so the world can be one big happy
> family :-)  I got this penpal at the JRC
> in Ispra Italy and he uses me to practice his english on
> that is where I learned they seem to favor
> GIF over everything else.
> The Europeans are quite intolerant of inefficiency.
> They do noy like americans using heavy paper
> in the mail they want you to use something like
> tissue paper that is so thin you can see through it.
> 
> Regards;
> geoff
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Nelson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Best Way TO show a simple drawing
> 
> 
>>
>> No way   :)   that is slow and labourous!!! ....  the BEST way is to 
>> draw the circuit
>> diag directly into MS paint
>>
>>     and save as a monochrome bitmap (bmp)  then use one of any # of 
>> programs
>> to convert it to a gif  I use Thumbsplus   its a great prog that I 
>> have used for
>> resizing, recolouring, etc and it converts between most of the current 
>> pic format
>> types.   I couldnt live with out it
>>  In fact cuz a mono bitmap file is only 103kB at my hi resolution, 
>> most of the time
>> I dont even bother to convert it.   !!!!
>>
>> I have been using MS paint for cct drawings for some 12 yrs   .... its 
>> esy to make
>> up a page of cct symbols and jst copy and paste to where u need them
>> and add a few lines between  along with explanation text.
>> I have drawn dozens and dozens of ccts this way
>> ( without the need to go to an expensive CAD prog.)
>>
>> check out    www.sydneystormcity.com/10GHz-Mod-Tonegen-AFC.bmp
>>
>>    and         www.sydneystormcity.com/23GHz-Sys-Block-diag.bmp
>>
>>                 for examples          (copy and paste into your 
>> browser  :)   )
>>
>> You have my permission to use these 2 bmp's as a starting point for some
>> component symbols etc, if you like :)
>>
>> cheers
>> Dave  N
>> VK2TDN
>>
>> At 05:07 AM 12/08/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>>> Use a fine point black magic marker on the whitest paper you can find
>>> here that is 96 to 98 I think depending on the thickness.
>>> 20lb ream vs 22 0r 24 lb. scan this to bmp  then convert
>>> to gif somehow. HP will not let me scan direct to gif
>>> yet gif is the best most efficient forms for B/W drawings.
>>
>>
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