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Subject: Exchange of ideas with graphics
From: "Kay Wyatt" kwyatt@.............
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:57:42 -0800


To all PSN folks,

I joined the PSN group in September and must say that I have learned =
much from everybody and I am indeed grateful.  I am running my own AS-1. =
 However, thanks to so many advisors, I am currently constructing both a =
vertical and horizontal sensor based on the collective knowledge of many =
of you.

Picking up knowledge from the PSN-net is like drinking through a fire =
hydrant.  I have especially had problems visualizing the suggested =
designs with a text-only system.  After emailing several PSN folks =
directly for drawings, I have had many "Aha" moments when receiving =
graphics.

The PSN mail list doesn't allow graphics to be sent directly.  Sending =
hyperlinks to drawings and photos on our individual websites works very =
well.  But many PSN folks do not have personal websites.

The PSN system allows for graphics distribution as follows (from the PSN =
Welcome email):

6)  Send only TEXT messages to the list.  Do not include any
    attachments, HTML tags (this is referring to HTML code not links),=20
    or so forth. If you have a picture, or other binary type files=20
    to share with the group, you can uploaded when using FTP to
    ftp://ftp.seismicnet.com/info. See below for more information.=20

Has anybody been able to send graphics to the PSN ftp site?  When I ftp =
to the site I am asked for account and password.  .

I agree with Jerry (below) that I would worry about using John Lahr's =
blog site INSTEAD of the PSN.  But what about using it WITH the PSN =
email system.  That is, to upload a drawing to the blog and reference it =
with a hyperlink to the blog site?

I look forward to hearing any further discussion on this important =
issue.

By the way, are there any other women amateur seismologists on this =
list?  How many of you guys have shared your hobby with  your daughters? =
   ;-)

Kay Wyatt


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jerry Payton=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:46 AM
  Subject: Re: More productive exchange of ideas with graphics?


  John,

  I agree that visualization is VERY difficult sometimes, but I hesitate =
creating a separate blog since it might water down the discussions here. =
 People might move to the blogs instead of here and some might be left =
out of the comments.

  I am doing a "desktop experiment" right now with this and it would =
best be show rather than described.  I am suspending a ball point pen, =
as discussed.  On the other end of the pen is a ring magnet which is =
suspended about 1/2" above the edge of a spool of bulk wire, which is =
connected directly connected to my electronics.

  Thus far, it detects my walking up to the desk and other movements.  I =
am allowing some time to see if an EQ event happens (I hope).  Of =
course, it is not damped and movement could be in any direction.  I =
haven't crossed that bridge yet.

  Jerry


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John Lahr=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:26 AM
  Subject: More productive exchange of ideas with graphics?


  The discussion of various hinges and seismometer designs is very=20
  interesting, but in many cases I find it difficult to visualize the=20
  exact setup that is being described.  A photograph or a sketch would=20
  be very helpful.

  One way to do this is to start a blog.  It's easy to do=20
  at:  http://blogger.com.  I started a blog, just to see how it=20
  worked, and it only took a few minutes to add an entry.  My "trial"=20
  entry shows the AS-1 sensor:  http://seismoedu.blogspot.com/

  I'm sure there are other posting options as well.

  Cheers,
  John


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  To leave this list email PSN-L-REQUEST@.............. with=20
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To all PSN folks,
 
I joined the PSN group in September and must say = that I=20 have learned much from everybody and I am indeed grateful.  I am = running my=20 own AS-1.  However, thanks to so many advisors, I am currently = constructing=20 both a vertical and horizontal sensor based on the collective knowledge = of many=20 of you.
 
Picking up knowledge from the PSN-net is like = drinking=20 through a fire hydrant.  I have especially had problems visualizing = the=20 suggested designs with a text-only system.  After emailing several = PSN=20 folks directly for drawings, I have had many "Aha" moments when = receiving=20 graphics.
 
The PSN mail list doesn't allow graphics to be = sent=20 directly.  Sending hyperlinks to drawings and photos on our = individual=20 websites works very well.  But many PSN folks do not have personal=20 websites.
 
The PSN system allows for graphics distribution = as follows=20 (from the PSN Welcome email):
 
6)  Send only TEXT messages to the list.  Do not include=20 any
    attachments, HTML tags (this is referring to = HTML code=20 not links),
    or so forth. If you have a picture, = or other=20 binary type files
    to share with the group, you = can=20 uploaded when using FTP to
    ftp://ftp.seismicnet.com/info.= See=20 below for more information.
Has anybody been able to send graphics to the = PSN ftp=20 site?  When I ftp to the site I am asked for account and = password. =20 ..
 
I agree with Jerry (below) that I would worry = about using=20 John Lahr's blog site INSTEAD of the PSN.  But what about using it = WITH the=20 PSN email system.  That is, to upload a drawing to the blog and = reference=20 it with a hyperlink to the blog site?
 
I look forward to hearing any further discussion = on this=20 important issue.
 
By the way, are there any other women amateur=20 seismologists on this list?  How many of you guys have shared your = hobby=20 with  your daughters?    ;-)
 
Kay Wyatt
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jerry = Payton=20
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 = 7:46=20 AM
Subject: Re: More productive = exchange of=20 ideas with graphics?

John,
 
I agree that visualization is VERY difficult sometimes, but = I=20 hesitate creating a separate blog since it might water down = the=20 discussions here.  People might move to the blogs instead of here = and=20 some might be left out of the comments.
 
I am doing a "desktop experiment" right now with this and it = would best=20 be show rather than described.  I am suspending a ball point pen, = as=20 discussed.  On the other end of the pen is a ring magnet which is = suspended about 1/2" above the edge of a spool of bulk wire, = which is=20 connected directly connected to my electronics.
 
Thus far, it detects my walking up to the desk and other = movements. =20 I am allowing some time to see if an EQ event happens (I hope).  = Of=20 course, it is not damped and movement could be in any direction.  = I=20 haven't crossed that bridge yet.
 
Jerry
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John = Lahr
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: More productive exchange of ideas with=20 graphics?

The discussion of various hinges and seismometer = designs is=20 very
interesting, but in many cases I find it difficult to = visualize the=20
exact setup that is being described.  A photograph or a = sketch would=20
be very helpful.

One way to do this is to start a = blog.  It's=20 easy to do
at:  http://blogger.com.  I started a = blog, just=20 to see how it
worked, and it only took a few minutes to add an=20 entry.  My "trial"
entry shows the AS-1 sensor:  http://seismoedu.blogspot.com/

I'm=20 sure there are other posting options as=20 = well.

Cheers,
John


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Public=20 Seismic Network Mailing List (PSN-L)

To leave this list email = PSN-L-REQUEST@............... =20 with
the body of the message (first line only): unsubscribe
See = http://www.seismicnet.co= m/maillist.html=20 for more information.

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