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Subject: Re: horologist input
From: "meredith lamb" paleoartifact@.........
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:19:47 -0700


On Nov 11, 2007 7:40 AM, Randall Peters  wrote:

Hi Randall and all,

Your eddy current damping statement below is interesting and likely
applies.  Anyway;
I proceeded with some more experimentation today and put up 3 more pictures
on the same web page:

http://home.earthlink.net/~meredithlamb/magneticaxispivot/

I put the magnets atop the steel block "mast".  This makes it alot easier to
manipulate the
magnets/mechanics.

I added some soft iron spring material I salvaged from (I think) a Kodac
disposable camera, and
that helped alot with regard to the free oscillation time which was about 70
minutes plus.  It
spend alot of time (~20 minutes) oscillating when it was less than a 1/32"
total span; which
essentially means it would be quite effective as is for a amateur
horizontal enertia pendulum.

Meredith Lamb


>    Meredith,
> You mention 'standard' crossed rods oscillating up to about 4 times longer
> than your present arrangement
> with magnets.  If your 'standard' setup has no magnets, then I predict
> that a big part of this difference derives
> from eddy current damping due to the induced currents in the steel rods as
> the oscillate in the strong magnetic
> field of your gold-coated units.  This eddy current component is not a
> 'show-stopper' like the mechnical
> internal friction parts.  It is actually advantageous.
>  Randall
>
>
>


On Nov 11, 2007 7:40 AM, Randall Peters <PETERS_RD@..........> wrote:
 
Hi Randall and all,
 
Your eddy current damping statement below is interesting and likely applies.  Anyway;
I proceeded with some more experimentation today and put up 3 more pictures on the same web page:
 
http://home.earthlink.net/~meredithlamb/magneticaxispivot/
 
I put the magnets atop the steel block "mast".  This makes it alot easier to manipulate the
magnets/mechanics.
 
I added some soft iron spring material I salvaged from (I think) a Kodac disposable camera, and
that helped alot with regard to the free oscillation time which was about 70 minutes plus.  It
spend alot of time (~20 minutes) oscillating when it was less than a 1/32" total span; which
essentially means it would be quite effective as is for a amateur horizontal enertia pendulum. 
 
Meredith Lamb
 
   Meredith,
You mention 'standard' crossed rods oscillating up to about 4 times longer than your present arrangement
with magnets.  If your 'standard' setup has no magnets, then I predict that a big part of this difference derives
from eddy current damping due to the induced currents in the steel rods as the oscillate in the strong magnetic
field of your gold-coated units.  This eddy current component is not a 'show-stopper' like the mechnical
internal friction parts.  It is actually advantageous.
 Randall




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