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Subject: HS-10-1 questions
From: "Andreas Tschammer" asensio@............
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:12:39 +0100


Hi all,

my name is Andreas Tschammer and I am from Germany. I recently bought
a Geospace HS-10-1 vertical sensor (400 Ohms 3 V/ips) at ebay from=20
a German surplus dealer. I would like to do some experiments with active
damping/period extension (Lennartz-Method) =
http://www.lennartz-electronic.de/
and  http://www.terrajp.co.jp/Seismometers.pdf  (pp. 50).

Today I found the time to do some tests to help me to decide whether=20
to keep it or to send it back. It was not really a bargain, so it should =
work 100%.
I was using a resistive bridge - as described by ST Morrissey - to check
the resonance frequency and linearity. I removed the 2k2 resistor from =
the
terminals of the phone. The resonance was not very pronounced  between
1 Hz and 2 Hz. The sine current from the function generator was about =
30-100 uA
peak-peak. The up/down movement of the period adjustment screw was very =
small but visible.
Especially below 1 Hz the output voltage of the coil was non sinusoidal. =
It looked as if=20
the mass got stuck by some kind of friction and then was released as the =
current was growing.
I could make a picture of the oscilloskope screen if this helps.
I have a 24 Hz geophone which has always a linear/sinusoidal output =
during this test.=20
The resonance is also clearly visible.=20
I am afraid the nonlinearity of the HS-10 will be a problem when I try =
to LP filter the signal by software
to get rid of the high frequency seismic noise.
The HS-10 seems to be pretty sensitive. I have it sitting on the ground =
of the basement of my house
with a x100 amplifier and digital oscilloscope connected. I can see =
movements all the time. It gets
lower at night (15 mVpp) but still a lot of avtivity althought no cars =
can be heard outside. So its not totally dead.
The coil resistance is ok. I can hear some kind of klicking noise when I =
move the mass by the period adjustment=20
rod slowly up and down. I am not sure whether it comes from the =
astitisizing (typo?) spring or from the inside
of the housing.

Do you know whether this kind of non linear behaviour of the HS-10 is =
normal?=20
Can you recommend any other test that can be done with normal electronic =
lab=20
equipment to check the HS-10?=20
Is it possible/recommended to open the housing? I was not able to find a =
way to open it.
Maybe I can see the problem inside..=20

I really would like to keep the HS-10, so any kind of advise is welcome.
Thank you very much in advance for your help!


Andreas Tschammer







Hi all,
 
my name is Andreas Tschammer and I am = from Germany.=20 I recently bought
a Geospace HS-10-1 vertical sensor (400 Ohms 3 = V/ips) at=20 ebay from
a German surplus dealer. I would like to do some = experiments with=20 active
damping/period extension (Lennartz-Method) http://www.lennartz-electroni= c.de/
and =20 http://www.terrajp.co.= jp/Seismometers.pdf =20 (pp. 50).
 
Today I found the time to do some tests = to help me=20 to decide whether
to keep it or to send it back. It was = not really a=20 bargain, so it should work 100%.
I was using a resistive bridge - as=20 described by ST Morrissey - to check
the resonance frequency and = linearity. I=20 removed the 2k2 resistor from the
terminals of the phone. The = resonance was=20 not very pronounced  between
1 Hz and 2 Hz. The sine current = from the=20 function generator was about 30-100 uA
peak-peak. The up/down = movement of the=20 period adjustment screw was very small but visible.
Especially below = 1 Hz the=20 output voltage of the coil was non sinusoidal. It looked as if
the = mass got=20 stuck by some kind of friction and then was released as the current was=20 growing.
I could make a picture of the = oscilloskope screen=20 if this helps.
I have a 24 Hz geophone which has always a=20 linear/sinusoidal output during this test.
The resonance is also clearly = visible.=20
I am afraid the nonlinearity of = the HS-10 will=20 be a problem when I try to LP filter the signal by software
to get rid of the high frequency = seismic=20 noise.
The HS-10 seems to be pretty sensitive. = I have it=20 sitting on the ground of the basement of my house
with a x100 amplifier and digital = oscilloscope=20 connected. I can see movements all the time. It gets
lower at night (15 mVpp) but still = a lot of=20 avtivity althought no cars can be heard outside. So its not totally=20 dead.
The coil resistance is ok. I can hear = some kind of=20 klicking noise when I move the mass by the period adjustment =
rod slowly up and down. I am not sure = whether it=20 comes from the astitisizing (typo?) spring or from the = inside
of the housing.
 
Do you know whether this kind of non = linear=20 behaviour of the HS-10 is normal?
Can you recommend any other test = that can=20 be done with normal electronic lab
equipment to check the HS-10?=20
Is it possible/recommended to open the = housing? I=20 was not able to find a way to open it.
Maybe I can see the problem inside.. =
 
I really would like to keep the HS-10, = so any kind=20 of advise is welcome.
Thank you very much in advance for your = help!
 

Andreas Tschammer
Rheinbach, Germany

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