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Subject: Long Period Pendulum
From: tchannel1@............
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:38:03 -0700


Hi Folks,   I set up another test in the shop for the "Nearly Balanced =
Pendulum"   This time I found I could only get about 15 seconds, using a =
48" dowel with a center pivot at 24".   Here is what I found:

As I moved the top mass closer to the end of the dowel, which countered =
the fixed lower mass, the dowel's balance point would start to move from =
vertical to horizontal.


With no mass on the top, the dowel was vertical, because of the lower =
mass.   Placing the top mass at about half way up, the top half of the =
48" dowel, the whole thing still remained vertical.  As I moved the top =
mass higher, the dowel started to favor a 45 degree balance point, and a =
longer period, about 6 seconds.
The higher I moved the top mass, the longer the period, but now the =
balance point was getting close to horizontal.

I maxed out at 15 seconds, and the dowel nearly horizontal.   If I used =
a longer dowel I guess I would get a longer period.

Q.  1.  This movement from vertical to horizontal, it this expected?  or =
should it remain vertical as the period get longer?
Q   2.  Should I get more than 15 seconds, by using finer adjustment of =
the top mass?  I would think infinite.

My goal here, is to keep the dowel vertical, so if I swing it, it will =
return to vertical, yet obtain the longest period.  With this =
experiment, I can keep it vertical, but only achieve less than 10 =
seconds period.   Of course I want to use the shortest possible, =
pendulum, say 48"


Not sure if it is my set up, or perhaps my adjustments are still too =
coarse, or if this movement from vertical to horizontal is normal.

Thanks, Ted







Hi Folks,   I set up another = test in the=20 shop for the "Nearly Balanced Pendulum"   This time I = found I=20 could only get about 15 seconds, using a 48" dowel with a center pivot = at=20 24".   Here is what I found:
 
As I moved the top mass closer to the = end of the=20 dowel, which countered the fixed lower mass, the dowel's balance=20 point would start to move from vertical to horizontal.
 
 
With no mass on the top, the dowel was = vertical,=20 because of the lower mass.   Placing the top mass at about = half way=20 up, the top half of the 48" dowel, the whole thing still remained=20 vertical.  As I moved the top mass higher, the dowel started to = favor a 45=20 degree balance point, and a longer period, about 6 seconds.
The higher I moved the top mass, the = longer the=20 period, but now the balance point was getting close to = horizontal.
 
I maxed out at 15 seconds, and the = dowel nearly=20 horizontal.   If I used a longer dowel I guess I would get a = longer=20 period.
 
Q.  1.  This movement from = vertical to=20 horizontal, it this expected?  or should it remain vertical as the = period=20 get longer?
Q   2.  Should I get = more than 15=20 seconds, by using finer adjustment of the top mass?  I would think=20 infinite.
 
My goal here, is to keep the dowel = vertical, so if=20 I swing it, it will return to vertical, yet obtain the longest = period. =20 With this experiment, I can keep it vertical, but only achieve less than = 10=20 seconds period.   Of course I want to use the shortest = possible,=20 pendulum, say 48"
 
 
Not sure if it is my set up, or perhaps = my=20 adjustments are still too coarse, or if this movement from vertical to=20 horizontal is normal.
 
Thanks, Ted
 

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