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Subject: Re: Adjusting the period
From: tchannel1@............
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:39:01 -0600


Hi Chris,  I did double check everything, and the sensor seems to be =
working just fine.

The reason I know it is missing earthquakes is that I am running three =
channels, One vertical spring, one tiltmeter, and one =
Lehman..........The Lehman misses a lot of events the other two record.

Yes I think part of it is directional.

Would you think this could account for it..............The Lehman is set =
for twenty seconds, but at twenty seconds, I think it is maxed out, that =
is to say,  I don't think I could get 21 seconds.
Even 20 seconds, for this unit, may be too much.   I say that because it =
drifts, sometimes falling 1/2" per week to the left or to the right.  I =
adjust it back to  center and it stays only for a few days.

Might it simply be this unit is not capable of working at 20 seconds.   =
The sticking you mentioned.........could this be because it is =
overextended, perhaps this machine is only capable of a WORKING PERIOD =
of 15 seconds????

When I set it to 20, and move the boom, it does go to center, but =
because of the drift issue, it may not be capable of HOLDING CENTER. and =
perhaps this is stopping its sensitivity to all but the larger =
earthquakes????

On the good side the events it does record, 6.2 Alaska and 7.8 China, =
look really good.    Thanks for your help.
Ted
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: ChrisAtUpw@..........
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Adjusting the period


  In a message dated 2008/05/26, tchannel1@............ writes:


    I plan on changing the period from 20 seconds to another number, not =
sure what that number will be.   What I want to see, is how it records =
at different period settings.
    I know the advantages of the 20 seconds.  The disadvantage is it =
misses many other smaller earthquakes.
    My question:  Before I try other period numbers..........Have you =
tried this, and what were the results?
    I really don't know what the result would be.


  Hi Ted,

         If your Lehman is working properly, it should see all signals =
between the natural resonant period, at say 20 seconds and the low pass =
fiolter of your amplifier at 10 Hz.

         If you set the period to 10 seconds, it will only record =
signals between 10 seconds and 10 Hz. It will have about 1/4 theprevious =
sensitivity to 20 second Love waves.=20

         You WILL NOT see any more Earthquakes this way.

         Remember that Lehmans are directional? Could this be why you =
are missing some quakes? What quakes have you missed and why do you =
think you should have recorded them?
         An alternative is that your suspension may be sticking and =
preventing the arm from moving freely. You may then only see larger =
quakes.
         Can you remind me what suspensions, top and bottom, you are =
using, please?
         Do you see the normal 4 to 8 second microseisms OK?

         Regards,








Hi Chris,  I did double check = everything, and=20 the sensor seems to be working just fine.
 
The reason I know it is missing = earthquakes is that=20 I am running three channels, One vertical spring, one tiltmeter, and one = Lehman..........The Lehman misses a lot of events the other two=20 record.
 
Yes I think part of it is = directional.
 
Would you think this could account for=20 it..............The Lehman is set for twenty seconds, but at twenty = seconds, I=20 think it is maxed out, that is to say,  I don't think I could get = 21=20 seconds.
Even 20 seconds, for this unit, may be = too=20 much.   I say that because it drifts, sometimes falling 1/2" = per week=20 to the left or to the right.  I adjust it back to  center and = it stays=20 only for a few days.
 
Might it simply be this unit is not = capable of=20 working at 20 seconds.   The sticking you = mentioned.........could this=20 be because it is overextended, perhaps this machine is only capable of a = WORKING=20 PERIOD of 15 seconds????
 
When I set it to 20, and move the boom, = it does go=20 to center, but because of the drift issue, it may not be capable of = HOLDING=20 CENTER. and perhaps this is stopping its sensitivity to all but the = larger=20 earthquakes????
 
On the good side the events it does = record, 6.2=20 Alaska and 7.8 China, look really good.    Thanks for = your=20 help.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ChrisAtUpw@.......
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 = 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Adjusting the = period

In a=20 message dated 2008/05/26, tchannel1@............=20 writes:

I plan on changing the period from 20 seconds to another = number,=20 not sure what that number will be.   What I want to see, = is how it=20 records at different period settings.

I know the = advantages of the=20 20 seconds.  The disadvantage is it misses many other smaller=20 earthquakes.
My question:  Before I try other period=20 numbers..........Have you tried this, and what were the = results?
I really don't = know what the=20 result would be.

Hi=20 Ted,

       If your Lehman is = working=20 properly, it should see all signals between the natural resonant = period, at=20 say 20 seconds and the low pass fiolter of your amplifier at 10=20 Hz.

       If you set the period = to 10=20 seconds, it will only record signals between 10 seconds and 10 Hz. It = will=20 have about 1/4 theprevious sensitivity to 20 second Love waves.=20

       You WILL NOT see any more = Earthquakes this way.

       = Remember=20 that Lehmans are directional? Could this be why you are missing some = quakes?=20 What quakes have you missed and why do you think you should have = recorded=20 them?
       An alternative is that = your=20 suspension may be sticking and preventing the arm from moving freely. = You may=20 then only see larger quakes.
       = Can you=20 remind me what suspensions, top and bottom, you are using,=20 please?
       Do you see the normal = 4 to 8=20 second microseisms OK?

      =20 Regards,

       Chris = Chapman
=20

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