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Subject: RE: 1018 steel for neo magnet damp & pickup coil web price variation
From: "Gary Lindgren" gel@.................
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:40:06 -0700


Meredith,

You should also check out
http://www.metalsupermarkets.com/MSC-storefinder.aspx I ordered the steel
plates for the magnets and dimensions were very good. Very good prices too.
They also have aluminum. I'm lucky in that I have a store just a few miles
away and can pickup a day later. But they have locations around the world.
Check it out.

Gary  

 

 

 

 

From: psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@............... On
Behalf Of meredith lamb
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:08 AM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: 1018 steel for neo magnet damp & pickup coil web price variation

 

Hi all,

If you're interested in trying out the steel plates used with neodymium
metals of recent PSN email
notes and are looking for a steel source; here is a potential web source.

I note that speedy metals.com sells 1018 grade steel at about 1/2 the price
of onlinemetals.com.

For example; the 1/4" thick X 2" x 3" plate that Chris Chapman sized for his
coil, sells for $4.68 for FOUR
pieces; versus $9.12 via On line metals.com; for the same quanity and size.
Larger sizes will have
corresponding higher prices.  (The 4 pieces mentioned could potentially work
for both a coil pickup and
mass dampening needs.)

Speedy metals can cut by the inch; while on line metals calls (the same) a
"custom cut".  Neither have
a minimum order.  Speedy metals does limit the maximum "inch" overall length
to 105".

Both companies usually have potentially a - zero to 1/8" oversize cut.

I've not ordered anything from Speedy metals, so I can't say plus or minus;
however, they sell on E-Bay
and have a good reputation.

For on line metals, I've had experience.  They may take ~ 3 weeks to
deliver.  Which might prove to be
true also with Speedy metals for the special/custom cut/sheared sizes.

The "Kicker" for both is that they both prefer to ship via UPS....figure on
a extra added high ~ $8.00 > charge
or more (!).  To be fair, USPS isn't likely any cheaper.

Of course, one will still have to drill the holes in the plates and likely
file/deburr such and etc.

***Unless you're replicating the size above, it would do well, to seriously
consider a larger size of steel plates too "fit all"
present or future coils/dampening expectations.   The larger size would give
more room for a variety of neo
magnets, coils, dampening plate widths.  

http://www.speedymetals.com

http://www.onlinemetals.com

In Denver, I've checked four major hardware outlets, and none had any mild
steel of the base thickness and
width size/s above.  There was limited 1/8" thick mild/bright/unknown steel
and plenty of the lesser useful black high carbon stuff.
None had any useful steel "L" brackets that would work either.  High carbon
angle iron "might" work, but its usually
not very squared; and would require alot of file/grinding work.  Scrap yards
"might" yield something; but then you have
to have the machinery for cutting and etc.  Some scrap yards can cut too
size for a extra charge.  In the end; its
likely the only means for the average limited tool person is to order via
the web, and still have a punch, drill and file....

The cost seems to be all supply and demand (mainly the growing giants
China-India), and transportation oil price related.

Take care, Meredith Lamb


















Meredith,

You should also check out http://www= ..metalsupermarkets.com/MSC-storefinder.aspx I ordered the steel plates for the magnets and dimensions were very = good. Very good prices too. They also have aluminum. I’m lucky in that I have = a store just a few miles away and can pickup a day later. But they have = locations around the world. Check it out.

Gary 

 

 

 

 

From:= psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@............... On = Behalf Of meredith lamb
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:08 AM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: 1018 steel for neo magnet damp & pickup coil web = price variation

 

Hi all,

If you're interested in trying out the steel plates used with neodymium = metals of recent PSN email
notes and are looking for a steel source; here is a potential web = source.

I note that speedy metals.com sells = 1018 grade steel at about 1/2 the price of onlinemetals.com.

For example; the 1/4" thick X 2" x 3" plate that Chris = Chapman sized for his coil, sells for $4.68 for FOUR
pieces; versus $9.12 via On line metals.com; for the same quanity and size.  Larger sizes will have
corresponding higher prices.  (The 4 pieces mentioned could = potentially work for both a coil pickup and
mass dampening needs.)

Speedy metals can cut by the inch; while on line metals calls (the same) = a "custom cut".  Neither have
a minimum order.  Speedy metals does limit the maximum = "inch" overall length to 105".

Both companies usually have potentially a - zero to 1/8" oversize = cut.

I've not ordered anything from Speedy metals, so I can't say plus or = minus; however, they sell on E-Bay
and have a good reputation.

For on line metals, I've had experience.  They may take ~ 3 weeks = to deliver.  Which might prove to be
true also with Speedy metals for the special/custom cut/sheared = sizes.

The "Kicker" for both is that they both prefer to ship via UPS....figure on a extra added high ~ $8.00 > charge
or more (!).  To be fair, USPS isn't likely any cheaper.

Of course, one will still have to drill the holes in the plates and = likely file/deburr such and etc.

***Unless you're replicating the size above, it would do well, to = seriously consider a larger size of steel plates too "fit all"
present or future coils/dampening expectations.   The larger = size would give more room for a variety of neo
magnets, coils, dampening plate widths. 

http://www.speedymetals.com

http://www.onlinemetals.com

In Denver, I've checked four major hardware outlets, and none had any = mild steel of the base thickness and
width size/s above.  There was limited 1/8" thick = mild/bright/unknown steel and plenty of the lesser useful black high carbon stuff.
None had any useful steel "L" brackets that would work = either.  High carbon angle iron "might" work, but its usually
not very squared; and would require alot of file/grinding work.  = Scrap yards "might" yield something; but then you have
to have the machinery for cutting and etc.  Some scrap yards can = cut too size for a extra charge.  In the end; its
likely the only means for the average limited tool person is to order = via the web, and still have a punch, drill and file....

The cost seems to be all supply and demand (mainly the growing giants China-India), and transportation oil price related.

Take care, Meredith Lamb






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