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Subject: Re: My sticking Lehman?
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 18:53:30 EDT
In a message dated 2008/05/30, tchannel1@............ writes:
> The second problem: At 20 seconds, I was missing all but large
> earthquakes, those were coming through just fine. Chris suggest the arm might be
> sticking. I could see nothing which resembled sticking.
Hi Ted,
1) what top bearing / flexure are you using?
2) what bottom bearing / flexure are you using?
3) have you checked both the coil and the damping magnets for
whiskers? They tend to grow with time and can cause the beam to stick. I use one of
the pen lasers to check that the gaps are clear.
> I don't know if this was the cause and effect, but I fixed it:
>
> First this is not the best Lehman I have ever built. Its okay, and with
> little effort I got the 20 seconds, but I am not sure I could get 22. However
> at 20 something was sticking.
> I think at 20 it was so near infinity, it was almost flat. At infinity it
> would never move to center, the arm would just stay where you placed it. At 20
> seconds it would move to center, if the event was large enough to overcome
> the inertia, but smaller earthquakes would not do this.
This is typical of a problem with the suspension system. I don't know
what you expected to 'see', but you have just given a good description of what
is observed. I suspect that you will not have fixed the problem by shortening
the period, just reduced it a bit. The stiction, from whatever cause, will
still be there.
> I reduce the period to 15 seconds, and it is working great. I record 6.2M
> Iceland, and 4.1M California. I could, now increase the period to 16,17,18
> etc and retest. I will see how it performs at 15 for a while.
Regards,
Chris Chapman
In a me=
ssage dated 2008/05/30, tchannel1@............ writes:
The second problem: At 20=
seconds, I was missing all but large earthquakes, those were coming through=
just fine. Chris suggest the arm might be sticking. I could see nothi=
ng which resembled sticking.
Hi Ted,
1) what top bearing / flexure are you u=
sing?
2) what bottom bearing / flexure are yo=
u using?
3) have you checked both the coil and t=
he damping magnets for whiskers? They tend to grow with time and can cause t=
he beam to stick. I use one of the pen lasers to check that the gaps are cle=
ar.
I don't know if this was the c=
ause and effect, but I fixed it:
First this is not the best Lehman I have ever built. Its okay, and wi=
th little effort I got the 20 seconds, but I am not sure I could get 22.&nbs=
p; However at 20 something was sticking.
I think at 20 it was so near infinity, it was almost flat. At infinity it w=
ould never move to center, the arm would just stay where you placed it. At 2=
0 seconds it would move to center, if the event was large enough to overcome=
the inertia, but smaller earthquakes would not do this.
This is typical of a problem with the=20=
suspension system. I don't know what you expected to 'see', but you have jus=
t given a good description of what is observed. I suspect that you will not=20=
have fixed the problem by shortening the period, just reduced it a bit. The=20=
stiction, from whatever cause, will still be there.
I reduce the period to 15 seco=
nds, and it is working great. I record 6.2M Iceland, and 4.1M Californ=
ia. I could, now increase the period to 16,17,18 etc and retest.=
I will see how it performs at 15 for a while.
Regards,
Chris Chapman
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