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Subject: RE: My First Lehman
From: "Gary Lindgren" gel@.................
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:24:30 -0700


H Chris,

I don=E2=80=99t think we need to worry too much about the steel =
corroding here in California. The air is very dry even in the basement =
where the seismometer will be located. I purchased the SS pins from =
Small Parts. They seem pretty smooth, but by my finger nail test says =
they are not as hard as the steel dowel pins. Now 415 matensitic SS, I =
have not come across this one. I=E2=80=99ll have to look into that. =
Could that be an EU term? The .017 music wire is nickel plated.

Thank you for the comments, they are most useful.

Gary

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From: psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@............... =
On Behalf Of ChrisAtUpw@.......
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:27 AM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: Re: My First Lehman

=20

In a message dated 2008/06/09, gel@................. writes:




I have some pictures for the first Lehman. At this point I=E2=80=99m =
just getting familiar with it and learning how to set it up. I have 2 =
sets of crossbars, one set is 1/8=E2=80=9D SS dowel pins and the other =
is 1/8=E2=80=9D hardened steel dowel pins.=20



Hi Gary,

       Ordinary steel will corrode in the damp air during rolling =
contact. They are OK for trying out, but they won't last long. Are the =
SS dowel pins hardened, ground and polished? Can you get them in =
something like type 415 martensitic SS? Incidentally, you can buy =
martesitic SS rod quite easily, but you would have to harden it.

So far I think I like the hardened steel better. The upper mounting uses =
the idea=20



from Ted, he suggested using a =C2=BC-20 acorn nut. This worked perfect, =
I drilled a .020=E2=80=9D hole in the center to receive the =
..017=E2=80=9D dia. music wire. A nice snug fit.=20



       If this works, fine! I use thinner nickel plated music wire, 8 to =
12 thou OD. I fit an L bracket at the top of the column with a =
horizontal hole in it. I fit a bolt with a hole bored through the centre =
and clamp the wire between flat washers. This seems to work OK.

       Then I use a =C2=BC=E2=80=9D dia. Si3N4 ball bearing. The ball =
bearing grade is 5, so it is very=20



smooth and very hard, much harder than steel. So far I have been able to =
achieve just under 30 sec.resonant period. I=E2=80=99ll be using the =
Chapman magnet system for both the sensor and damping. The Lehman is =
shown here http://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_6_8_08.jpg    The =
bearing detail:  =
http://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_bearing_6_8_08.jpg  The upper =
mounting: =
http://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_upper_mount_6_8_08.jpg  and =
lower mounting: =
http://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_lower_mount_6_8_08.jpg =20



       If you are getting 30 seconds, that is great.=20

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman=20












H Chris,

I don=E2=80=99t think we need to worry too much about the = steel corroding here in California. The air is very dry even in the basement = where the seismometer will be located. I purchased the SS pins from Small = Parts. They seem pretty smooth, but by my finger nail test says they are not as hard = as the steel dowel pins. Now 415 matensitic SS, I have not come across this = one. I=E2=80=99ll have to look into that. Could that be an EU term? The .017 music wire is = nickel plated.

Thank you for the comments, they are most = useful.

Gary

 

From:= psn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@............... On = Behalf Of ChrisAtUpw@.......
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:27 AM
To: psn-l@..............
Subject: Re: My First Lehman

 

In a message dated 2008/06/09, gel@................. writes:


I have some pictures for the first Lehman. At this point I=E2=80=99m just = getting familiar with it and learning how to set it up. I have 2 sets of = crossbars, one set is 1/8=E2=80=9D SS dowel pins and the other is 1/8=E2=80=9D hardened = steel dowel pins.



Hi Gary,

       Ordinary steel will corrode in the = damp air during rolling contact. They are OK for trying out, but they won't = last long. Are the SS dowel pins hardened, ground and polished? Can you get = them in something like type 415 martensitic SS? Incidentally, you can buy = martesitic SS rod quite easily, but you would have to harden it.

So far I think I like the hardened steel better. The upper mounting uses = the idea

from Ted, he suggested using a =C2=BC-20 = acorn nut. This worked perfect, I drilled a .020=E2=80=9D hole in the center to = receive the .017=E2=80=9D dia. music wire. A nice snug fit.



       If this works, fine! I use thinner = nickel plated music wire, 8 to 12 thou OD. I fit an L bracket at the top of the = column with a horizontal hole in it. I fit a bolt with a hole bored through the = centre and clamp the wire between flat washers. This seems to work OK.

       Then I use a =C2=BC=E2=80=9D dia. = Si3N4 ball bearing. The ball bearing grade is 5, so it is very

smooth and very hard, much harder than = steel. So far I have been able to achieve just under 30 sec.resonant period. = I=E2=80=99ll be using the Chapman magnet system for both the sensor and damping. = The Lehman is shown here http://gelin= dgren.googlepages.com/lehman_6_8_08.jpg    The bearing detail:  http= ://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_bearing_6_8_08.jpg  The upper mounting: = http://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_upper_mount_6_8_08.jpg = and lower mounting: = http://gelindgren.googlepages.com/lehman_lower_mount_6_8_08.jpg =



       If you are getting 30 seconds, that = is great.

       Regards,

       Chris Chapman


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