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Subject: Re: Scientist water can evaluation
From: tchannel1@............
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:26:24 -0600


Let us not completely ignore the environmental repercussions of this =
proposal.   This obviously will, could, or might affect the balance of =
ground water, surface water, and the great Snake River aquifer here in =
Idaho.  I have been in Idaho 34 years and all but two of those years the =
Governor has declared a "Drought."  Nobody seems to consider that this =
area is a desert.
Assuming the dehydrated water in the can contains at least some water, =
taking this limited natural resource from this area could have profound =
effects on an already fragile ecosystem.

Taking the water from the mountain to the north is out of the question =
because of the adverse effects on the slopes of road construction and =
runoff into the creeks and watershed, hence on the fish and wildlife.  =
But being open minded about it, an environmental feasibility study could =
be done.

Taking the water from the Boise River is out of the question because of =
the Wetland Habitat restrictions and, again ,the erosion factors along =
the riverbanks.   Many years ago the college kids would prospect for =
gold in the rivers and streams, but the silt would muddied the water, =
depressed the fish, so that is no longer allowed.

Taking the water from the desert to the south of Boise I think would be =
perfectly permitable, but there are numerous Native American petrographs =
throughout the desert land, which has made it necessary to make great =
regions of the desert off limits.   We also have the "Bureau Snail," =
which is unique to the area and is on the Endangered Species list, but a =
feasibility study could be done.

This vast area of land runs from Boise for hundreds of miles south, all =
desert but a town now and then, like Reno and Winnemucca, Nevada.  Keep =
in mind you could not use ground water, because of the strain already on =
the Snake River aquifer.   Surface water would be okay if you could =
locate some, once you attained the necessary environmental impact study, =
and various State and Federal permits.

After thinking out loud about this, I suggest it most likely can't be =
done in Idaho because of our limited natural resources and our limited =
renewable natural resources, like water.
I don't think Idaho could offer to manufacture the cans.  We used to =
have lots of lead mines, but they are all gone.  So even the lead for =
soldering the can seams would not be feasible.  If the label is made =
from wood pulp, we would have to pass up the manufacturing of those, as =
we no longer operate wood mills in Idaho.   We have billions and =
billions of trees, but because of restrictions they can't be harvested, =
thinned, or put to good use, hence the pulp mills have closed.

But, "where there is a will, there is a way."  This Canned Water could =
be marketed.   I suggest we import the necessary "seed waters" from =
Canada, in the same manner as we do for natural gas and oil products, or =
from Venezuela, or the Middle East.  I did some careful calculations and =
cost analyses.  We could process, can, and market the dehydrated water =
for about $4.15 per gallon for regular dehydrated, and $4.85 for the =
premium.

This has nothing to do with earthquakes, so my apologies for taking up =
space.

Ted
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: meredith lamb=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:34 PM
  Subject: Scientist water can evaluation


  I suppose every seismometry lab and kitchen, should have one of =
these......see:

  http://seismometer.googlepages.com/scientistwater

  (Just follow the directions on the photo can label....simple =
instructions...you too can
  figure it out I think...maybe....perhaps...sort of...)

  Think it was made around the 1950's....wonder if its edible now...or =
stale?

  Probably a good old weight loss diet perhaps...

  The "contents" are probably purer than todays ...

  The weld lining might have some lead in the weld....bad for the =
brains....

  Save it for afew thousand years, for at mo spheric evaluation?

  Made in California.....is that really good?

  I don't think it would make a good seismometer mass...the can is =
ferromagnetic.

  Theres NO pull tab on top....what do we do now?

  Can it you say?  Can the can?

  Do we need a professional or learned evaluation?


  Take care,  (Whats his name)











Let us not completely ignore the = environmental=20 repercussions of this proposal.   This obviously will, could, = or might=20 affect the balance of ground water, surface water, and the great Snake=20 River aquifer here in Idaho.  I have been in Idaho 34 years = and all=20 but two of those years the Governor has declared a "Drought."  = Nobody seems=20 to consider that this area is a desert.
Assuming the dehydrated water in the = can contains=20 at least some water, taking this limited natural resource from this area = could=20 have profound effects on an already fragile ecosystem.
 
Taking the water from the mountain to = the north is=20 out of the question because of the adverse effects on the slopes of road = construction and runoff into the creeks and watershed, hence on the = fish=20 and wildlife.  But being open = minded about=20 it, an environmental feasibility study could be done.
 
Taking the water from the Boise River = is out of the=20 question because of the Wetland Habitat restrictions and, again ,the = erosion=20 factors along the riverbanks.   Many years ago the college = kids would=20 prospect for gold in the rivers and streams, but the silt would muddied = the=20 water, depressed the fish, so that is no longer allowed.
 
Taking the water from the desert to the = south of=20 Boise I think would be perfectly permitable, but there are numerous = Native=20 American petrographs throughout the desert land, which has made it = necessary to=20 make great regions of the desert off limits.   We also = have the=20 "Bureau Snail," which is unique to the area and is on the Endangered = Species=20 list, but a feasibility study could be done.
 
This vast area of land runs from Boise = for hundreds=20 of miles south, all desert but a town now and then, like Reno and=20 Winnemucca, Nevada.  Keep in = mind you could=20 not use ground water, because of the strain already on the Snake River=20 aquifer.   Surface water would be okay if you could = locate some,=20 once you attained the necessary environmental impact study, and various = State=20 and Federal permits.
 
After thinking out loud about this, I = suggest it=20 most likely can't be done in Idaho because of our limited natural = resources and=20 our limited renewable natural resources, like water.
I don't think Idaho could offer to = manufacture the=20 cans.  We used to have lots of lead mines, but they are all = gone.  So=20 even the lead for soldering the can seams would not be feasible.  = If the=20 label is made from wood pulp, we would have to pass up the = manufacturing of=20 those, as we no longer operate wood mills in Idaho.   We have = billions=20 and billions of trees, but because of restrictions they can't be = harvested,=20 thinned, or put to good use, hence the pulp mills have = closed.
 
But, "where there is a will, there is a = way." =20 This Canned Water could be marketed.   I suggest we import the = necessary "seed waters" from Canada, in the same manner as we do for = natural gas=20 and oil products, or from Venezuela, or the Middle East.  I = did some=20 careful calculations and cost analyses.  We could process, can, and = market=20 the dehydrated water for about $4.15 per gallon for regular dehydrated, = and=20 $4.85 for the premium.
 
This has nothing to do with = earthquakes, so my=20 apologies for taking up space.
 
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 meredith lamb
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 = 11:34=20 PM
Subject: Scientist water can=20 evaluation

I suppose every seismometry lab and kitchen, should = have one of=20 these......see:

http://seismom= eter.googlepages.com/scientistwater

(Just=20 follow the directions on the photo can label....simple = instructions...you too=20 can
figure it out I think...maybe....perhaps...sort = of...)

Think it=20 was made around the 1950's....wonder if its edible now...or=20 stale?

Probably a good old weight loss diet = perhaps...

The=20 "contents" are probably purer than todays ...

The weld lining = might=20 have some lead in the weld....bad for the brains....

Save it = for afew=20 thousand years, for at mo spheric evaluation?

Made in = California.....is=20 that really good?

I don't think it would make a good = seismometer=20 mass...the can is ferromagnetic.

Theres NO pull tab on = top....what do=20 we do now?

Can it you say?  Can the can?

Do we need = a=20 professional or learned evaluation?


Take care,  (Whats = his=20 name)





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