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Subject: Re: Tungsten Pins
From: "Dale Hardy" photon1@...........
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:09:27 +1000


Hi Meredith,
best picture i can take is at http://www.daleh.id.au/pictures1.html
 that is about 12X
Under 10X glass no sign of grinding marks, the reflection in the image =
is my window near where i took the picture.
3 Rods ? as in >|o|< arrangement ?
ta
Dale
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: meredith lamb=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Tungsten Pins


  Hi Dale,

  Good; at least you tried such.  I do wish you had a real closeup =
camera and/or a web site to show the rounded end.  My guess is that it =
is diamond
  wheel ground off and isn't anywhere near as round as a true sperical =
ball.  Under ~ >15x magnifcation you visually might see "jerky steps" =
going
  up to the domed rods end point top.  All those little steps likely =
significantly impede smooth rotation where they make contact; as =
compared to a
  much more finely rounded ball.

  This reminds years back of obtaining a unheat treated tool steel drill =
rod shank/blank.  Boy, was that rod so visually shiny!  Under =
magnification,
  the surface was so badly spirally groove marked from the lathe tool, =
it was completely unuseable in a cross rod pivot test, and yielded the
  shortest time for free oscillation time duration of any material I =
had.

  I "presume" your domed rod end is making contact on a flat surface.

  If you're game; just for fun, you might also sometime try a true =
crossed (3 rods) rod pivot on your (presumed) experimental "test" =
Lehman....it can
  work almost frictionless very well....but they do have a obvious =
tendency to "slip" or "walk" horizontally and vertically (or, at any =
angle); so you will
  probably have to have alotof setup patience with adjustments.  All of =
which is why......the 2 rods and a ball is used; it totally eliminates =
all the=20
  otherwise pesky vertical slip/walk problem on a Lehman, but gets quite =
decent results.

  Take care, Meredith=20



      =20


  On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Dale Hardy  =
wrote:

    Hi Meredith,
    omitted to mention those 'capstan' rods also have a 'domed' end =
which has been used successfully as a pivot point on the arm of a lehman
    Dale




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Hi Meredith,
best picture i can take is at http://www.daleh.id.au/pic= tures1.html
 that is about 12X
Under 10X glass no sign of grinding = marks, the=20 reflection in the image is my window near where i took the = picture.
3 Rods ? as in >|o|< arrangement=20 ?
ta
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 meredith lamb
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 = 1:41=20 AM
Subject: Re: Tungsten = Pins

Hi Dale,
 
Good; at least you tried such.  I do wish you had a real = closeup=20 camera and/or a web site to show the rounded end.  My guess = is that=20 it is diamond
wheel ground off and isn't anywhere near as round as a true = sperical=20 ball.  Under ~ >15x magnifcation you visually might see = "jerky=20 steps" going
up to the domed rods end point top.  All those little steps = likely=20 significantly impede smooth rotation where they make contact; as = compared to=20 a
much more finely rounded ball.
 
This reminds years back of obtaining a unheat treated tool = steel=20 drill rod shank/blank.  Boy, was that rod so visually = shiny!  Under=20 magnification,
the surface was so badly spirally groove marked from the = lathe tool,=20 it was completely unuseable in a cross rod pivot test, and = yielded=20 the
shortest time for free oscillation time duration of any material = I=20 had.
 
I "presume" your domed rod end is making contact on a flat=20 surface.
 
If you're game; just for fun, you might also sometime try a = true=20 crossed (3 rods) rod pivot on your (presumed) experimental "test"=20 Lehman....it can
work almost frictionless very = well....but they=20 do have a obvious tendency to "slip" or "walk" horizontally and = vertically=20 (or, at any angle); so you will
probably have to have alotof setup = patience=20 with adjustments.  All of which is why......the 2 rods and a ball = is=20 used; it totally eliminates all the
otherwise pesky vertical=20 slip/walk problem on a Lehman, but gets quite decent results.
 
Take care, Meredith 
 
 
 
    

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Dale Hardy = <photon1@...........>=20 wrote:
Hi Meredith,
omitted to mention those 'capstan' = rods also=20 have a 'domed' end which has been used successfully as a pivot point = on the=20 arm of a lehman
Dale


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