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Subject: Re: Tungsten Rods
From: "Dale Hardy" photon1@...........
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:40:40 +1000


Excellent Gary,
that is what it is all about, experimenting and testing the theories and =
views expressed, then coming to your own conclusions,
pleae keep it up
regards
Dale
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Gary Lindgren=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:07 AM
  Subject: Tungsten Rods


  I have been taking my time to get my first Lehman up and running. =
First just to learn how the thing works and then to optimize the =
operation. In the last month we have had lots of discussion on various =
Tungsten rods and other materials for the 2 horizontal rods and ball =
bearing support system. I first tried various rod materials by trying to =
get as long resonant period, but came to the conclusion this was =
difficult to repeat. Meredith on his 6/25 message got me thinking to =
take a different approach. I reset the Lehman for a short period (about =
10 seconds) and then connected the sensor to the amplifier and watched =
the display as the amplitude decayed. Now we have something that can be =
easily measured and repeated. I standardized on measurements for 5 =
minutes or 300 seconds. The decay equation is Y=3D A e- t/T where t is =
time and T is the time constant of the system. For materials I used =
hardened steel, stainless steel, tungsten carbide (as received), =
tungsten carbide (mirror polished) 1/8" diameter rods. The ball bearing =
is =BC" diameter silicon carbide.=20

  Here is what I found for the time constants:

  Hardened steel: 154 seconds

  Stainless steel: 125 seconds

  Tungsten carbide ( as received): 155 seconds

  Tungsten carbide (mirror polish): 191 seconds

  =20

  The goal is to have a high time constant, indicating lower friction.

  =20

  Polishing: The tungsten carbide as received actually had a very good =
polish when received, but not quite a mirror finish. I obtained 3 =
diamond polishing grit sizes, starting out with 35u, then 15u, and =
finally 3u. The 35 and 15u actually made the tungsten carbide rod =
rougher. I followed Chris Chapman's method for polishing using a bent =
sheet of copper with the diamond paste.

  =20

  Conclusion: Polished tungsten carbide rods have the lowest friction.

  =20

  =20

  Gary

  =20

  =20

  =20

  =20

  Gary Lindgren

  585 Lincoln Ave

  Palo Alto CA 94301

  =20

  650-326-0655

  =20

  www.blue-eagle-technologies.com

  cymonsplace.blogspot.com=20

  =20

  =20



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Excellent Gary,
that is what it is all about, = experimenting and=20 testing the theories and views expressed, then coming to your own=20 conclusions,
pleae keep it up
regards
Dale
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gary=20 Lindgren
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 = 9:07 AM
Subject: Tungsten Rods

I have been taking my time to get my first Lehman = up and=20 running. First just to learn how the thing works and then to optimize = the=20 operation. In the last month we have had lots of discussion on various = Tungsten rods and other materials for the 2 horizontal rods and ball = bearing=20 support system. I first tried various rod materials by trying to get = as long=20 resonant period, but came to the conclusion this was difficult to = repeat.=20 Meredith on his 6/25 message got me thinking to take a different = approach. I=20 reset the Lehman for a short period (about 10 seconds) and then = connected the=20 sensor to the amplifier and watched the display as the amplitude = decayed. Now=20 we have something that can be easily measured and repeated. I = standardized on=20 measurements for 5 minutes or 300 seconds. The decay equation is Y=3D = A e- t/T=20 where t is time and T is the time constant of the system. For = materials I used=20 hardened steel, stainless steel, tungsten carbide (as received), = tungsten=20 carbide (mirror polished) 1/8=94 diameter rods. The ball bearing is = =BC=94 diameter=20 silicon carbide.

Here is what I found for the time = constants:

Hardened steel: 154 seconds

Stainless steel: 125 seconds

Tungsten carbide ( as received): 155 = seconds

Tungsten carbide (mirror polish): 191=20 seconds

 

The goal is to have a high time constant, = indicating lower=20 friction.

 

Polishing: The tungsten carbide as received = actually had a=20 very good polish when received, but not quite a mirror finish. I = obtained 3=20 diamond polishing grit sizes, starting out with 35u, then 15u, and = finally 3u.=20 The 35 and 15u actually made the tungsten carbide rod rougher. I = followed=20 Chris Chapman=92s method for polishing using a bent sheet of copper = with the=20 diamond paste.

 

Conclusion: Polished tungsten carbide rods have = the lowest=20 friction.

 

 

Gary

 

 

 

 

Gary=20 Lindgren

585=20 Lincoln Ave

Palo=20 Alto CA 94301

 

650-326-0655

 

www.blue-eagle-technologies.com

cymonsplace.blogspot.com 

 

 


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