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Subject: Re: Concerning "A vertical and horizontal sensing pendulum"
From: "meredith lamb" paleoartifact@.........
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:35:30 -0600


Randall,

Per the email below; you are absolutely correct; it doesn't have a vertical
component.  Just by my putting a finger
on the mass (which is what I should have originally checked); there isn't
any sensed vertical motion whatsoever.  I will
eventually change the web page to reflect such correction.

Mental logic says it yet still quite possible to actually make it
specifically vertical sensitive, by perhaps adding either a pivot area
metal extension and a adjustable spring which extents perhaps to the base
area or thereabouts; which forces a vertical
component into the picture.

The horizontal sensing motion "seems" noteably enhanced (~1/2 hour longer
than any other tested S-G pivot setup) by the
offset pivot....i.e., via my simple amateur friction mass offset time
duration test.   With your background; I suspect you may
have indeed already tried such...what's your simplified opinion on that
pivot approach....I'am quite "open" on that subject too.

It does seem to have a very responsive visual pendulum offset to even very
the slightest air currents when not shielded/enclosed.

Its a novel S-G pivot (simple gravity pendulum) setup yes; but still
interesting where it might be possible to use either
a added spring maintained vertical, or, the as is, horizontal sensing; but
likely not both at the same time.

Take care, Meredith











On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Randall Peters wrote:

> Meredith,
>    I am trying to understand the vertical response that you mention for
> the system described at http://seismometer.googlepages.com/vh
> With the pendulum hanging initially at equilibrium (center of mass
> directly below the center of the ruby spheres) I can't envision any
> physical mechanism for which a strictly vertical acceleration is capable
> of producing motion.
>   Randall
>
Randall,
 
Per the email below; you are absolutely correct; it doesn't have a vertical component.  Just by my putting a finger
on the mass (which is what I should have originally checked); there isn't any sensed vertical motion whatsoever.  I will
eventually change the web page to reflect such correction.
 
Mental logic says it yet still quite possible to actually make it specifically vertical sensitive, by perhaps adding either a pivot area
metal extension and a adjustable spring which extents perhaps to the base area or thereabouts; which forces a vertical
component into the picture.
 
The horizontal sensing motion "seems" noteably enhanced (~1/2 hour longer than any other tested S-G pivot setup) by the
offset pivot....i.e., via my simple amateur friction mass offset time duration test.   With your background; I suspect you may
have indeed already tried such...what's your simplified opinion on that pivot approach....I'am quite "open" on that subject too.
 
It does seem to have a very responsive visual pendulum offset to even very the slightest air currents when not shielded/enclosed.
 
Its a novel S-G pivot (simple gravity pendulum) setup yes; but still interesting where it might be possible to use either
a added spring maintained vertical, or, the as is, horizontal sensing; but likely not both at the same time.
 
Take care, Meredith   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Randall Peters <PETERS_RD@..........> wrote:
Meredith,
   I am trying to understand the vertical response that you mention for
the system described at http://seismometer.googlepages.com/vh
With the pendulum hanging initially at equilibrium (center of mass
directly below the center of the ruby spheres) I can't envision any
physical mechanism for which a strictly vertical acceleration is capable
of producing motion.
  Randall


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