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Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER
From: "JAMES ALLEN" jcallen1@...........
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:34:11 -0700


Meredith Lamb or any member using a Sprengnether 201 Long Period unit:  =
There is an scale on the front of mine with the indicator pointer that =
is at the fourth line from the top, which is essentially at the top =
stop, and will normally oscillate to the 6th line from the top.  Is this =
where it is supposed to be or should it be centered on the 20 unit scale =
which after a year of off and on fiddling seems impossible?
James Allen =20

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: meredith lamb=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:35 AM
  Subject: Re: Concerning "A vertical and horizontal sensing pendulum"


  Randall,

  Per the email below; you are absolutely correct; it doesn't have a =
vertical component.  Just by my putting a finger
  on the mass (which is what I should have originally checked); there =
isn't any sensed vertical motion whatsoever.  I will
  eventually change the web page to reflect such correction.

  Mental logic says it yet still quite possible to actually make it =
specifically vertical sensitive, by perhaps adding either a pivot area
  metal extension and a adjustable spring which extents perhaps to the =
base area or thereabouts; which forces a vertical
  component into the picture.

  The horizontal sensing motion "seems" noteably enhanced (~1/2 hour =
longer than any other tested S-G pivot setup) by the
  offset pivot....i.e., via my simple amateur friction mass offset time =
duration test.   With your background; I suspect you may
  have indeed already tried such...what's your simplified opinion on =
that pivot approach....I'am quite "open" on that subject too.

  It does seem to have a very responsive visual pendulum offset to even =
very the slightest air currents when not shielded/enclosed.

  Its a novel S-G pivot (simple gravity pendulum) setup yes; but still =
interesting where it might be possible to use either
  a added spring maintained vertical, or, the as is, horizontal sensing; =
but likely not both at the same time.


  Take care, Meredith  =20









     =20


  On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Randall Peters  =
wrote:

    Meredith,
       I am trying to understand the vertical response that you mention =
for
    the system described at http://seismometer.googlepages.com/vh
    With the pendulum hanging initially at equilibrium (center of mass
    directly below the center of the ruby spheres) I can't envision any
    physical mechanism for which a strictly vertical acceleration is =
capable
    of producing motion.
      Randall









Meredith Lamb or any member using a = Sprengnether=20 201 Long Period unit:  There is an scale on the front of mine = with the=20 indicator pointer that is at the fourth line from the top, which is = essentially at the top stop, and will normally oscillate to the 6th = line=20 from the top.  Is this where it is supposed to be or should it be = centered=20 on the 20 unit scale which after a year of off and on = fiddling seems=20 impossible?
James Allen  
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 meredith lamb
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, = 2008 9:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: Concerning "A = vertical and=20 horizontal sensing pendulum"

Randall,
 
Per the email below; you are absolutely correct; it doesn't have = a=20 vertical component.  Just by my putting a finger
on the mass (which is what I should have originally checked); = there isn't=20 any sensed vertical motion whatsoever.  I will
eventually change the web page to reflect such correction.
 
Mental logic says it yet still quite possible to actually make it = specifically vertical sensitive, by perhaps adding either a pivot = area
metal extension and a adjustable spring which extents perhaps to = the base=20 area or thereabouts; which forces a vertical
component into the picture.
 
The horizontal sensing motion "seems" noteably enhanced = (~1/2 hour=20 longer than any other tested S-G pivot setup) by the
offset pivot....i.e., via my simple amateur friction mass offset = time=20 duration test.   With your background; I suspect you = may
have indeed already tried such...what's your simplified opinion = on that=20 pivot approach....I'am quite "open" on that subject too.
 
It does seem to have a very responsive visual=20 pendulum offset to even very the slightest air currents when not=20 shielded/enclosed.
 
Its a novel S-G pivot (simple gravity pendulum) setup yes; but = still=20 interesting where it might be possible to use either
a added spring maintained vertical, or, the as is, horizontal = sensing;=20 but likely not both at the same time.
 
Take care, Meredith   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Randall = Peters <PETERS_RD@..........> = wrote:
Meredith,
 =20  I am trying to understand the vertical response that you = mention=20 for
the system described at http://seismometer.googlepages.com/vh
With = the pendulum=20 hanging initially at equilibrium (center of mass
directly below = the=20 center of the ruby spheres) I can't envision any
physical = mechanism for=20 which a strictly vertical acceleration is capable
of producing=20 motion.
 =20 = Randall


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