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Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER
From: "JAMES ALLEN" jcallen1@...........
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:36:01 -0700


Thanks for the additional information
James Allen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: meredith lamb=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER


  James,

  Wonderful attitude!  One more thing...sometimes the adjustment nuts, =
collars etc., have a hex setscrew/s position lock/s somewhere thereon; =
look for them, and
  release, or tighten down as necessary also. =20

  Take care, Meredith


  On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM, JAMES ALLEN  =
wrote:

    Thanks Meredith.  I appreciate all the recommendations and tips for =
adjusting what I think is a "beautiful piece of seismic equipment".  =
Your email has re-inspired me to really tackle this challenge.  I will =
let you know how it turns out. =20
    Many thanks again for you wisdom and help.
    James Allen
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: meredith lamb=20
      To: psn-l@.................
      Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:35 AM
      Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER





      On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, JAMES ALLEN =
 wrote:

        Meredith Lamb or any member using a Sprengnether 201 Long Period =
unit:  There is an scale on the front of mine with the indicator pointer =
that is at the fourth line from the top, which is essentially at the top =
stop, and will normally oscillate to the 6th line from the top.  Is this =
where it is supposed to be or should it be centered on the 20 unit scale =
which after a year of off and on fiddling seems impossible?
        James Allen =20

          Hmmm....either its my computer malfunctioned or ?, but here I =
see my response to Randall showing up below your message above???
      James,

      It "sounds" like you need to give some more slack to the top wire =
(top rear rotating knurled nut) ...just to allow the frame/mass to come
      further down, which then allows the vertical seismometer boom/mass =
to get within the true center range of your
      boom range/pointer mechanism.  It normally should be able to range =
over the entire pointer scale of course.  My wild guess is that the =
previous
      owner/s had the same (which IS entirely solvable) problem also; =
but didn't do the necessary adjustment/s.

      Remove the coil and dampening coil wires before exploring the =
adjustment mechanisms.  I don't know what you've done before; so, all
      I can do is text the below.

      At the rear top is a knurled round threaded wire adjustment which =
will raise/lower the wire (and which changes the period).  Try rotating =
that
      slowly over whatever reaction range first....in conjunction with =
varying the front set screw, which you'll need to do probably =
constantly.  Its
      entirely possible that even a slight partial rotation or more; =
will get you into a full range of its indicator pointer. =20

      Another potential "indicator/answer" could lie in your front =
single set screw adjustment setting.  Try rotating that over a =
reasonable range
      and observe whether the boom/mass hits the stop at the top the =
majority of the time.  If (the boom/pointer) hits the top stop limit and =
stays there the
      majority of the set screw range change; then that reaction would =
might re-affirm you need for more wire slack as above.

      Adjusting both the front set screw and the top back screw is =
critical for this "boom/mass balance/pointer range" or in short; just =
being able to
      see its oscillation movement range.  The whole thing is kind of a =
crude weight balance with the spring acting as kind of a varying pivot =
force.

      IF.....you've done all this before (?), and it still tends to go =
to the upper range limit/stop....then you might actually have to unclamp =
the
      compression wire fitting and feed abit more wire down.  Thats a =
really nasty job, as you'll be physically fighting the strong spring =
tension
      while trying to place the wire lower and also be ready to tighten =
the compression wire clamp.  Its possible that the previous owner/s =
might
      have cut off the exposed wire coming out of the wire adjustment at =
the top/back (?), there should normally be some wire coming out there?
      If there isn't any wire....and you're at the limit of =
adjustments...you may have to rewire it to give more room/slack of =
course.  We can get
      into that if necessary.

      I have a love-hate relationship with this coil/magnet vertical.  I =
like its long mechanical period; but I hate its temperature sensitivity. =
 All in all, its
      worth fussing with....theres no real mechanical alternative of =
course; outside of electronic extension of lesser period gizmo's.   Most =

      amateurs have no vertical whatsoever....

      Take care, Meredith





               =20








Thanks for the additional = information
James Allen
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 meredith lamb
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 = 11:12=20 PM
Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 = LONG PERIOD=20 VERTICAL SEISMOMETER

James,
 
Wonderful attitude!  One more thing...sometimes the = adjustment=20 nuts, collars etc., have a hex setscrew/s position lock/s somewhere = thereon;=20 look for them, and
release, or tighten down as necessary also.  =
 
Take care, Meredith

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM, JAMES ALLEN = <jcallen1@...........> = wrote:
Thanks Meredith.  I appreciate = all the=20 recommendations and tips for adjusting what I think is a "beautiful = piece of=20 seismic equipment".  Your email has re-inspired me to really = tackle=20 this challenge.  I will let you know how it turns out. =20
Many thanks again for you wisdom = and=20 help.
James Allen
----- Original Message ----- =
From: = meredith lamb
Sent: Friday, August 15, = 2008 8:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER = 201 LONG=20 PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER



On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, JAMES = ALLEN <jcallen1@...........> wrote:
Meredith Lamb or any member = using a=20 Sprengnether 201 Long Period unit:  There is an scale = on the=20 front of mine with the indicator pointer that is at = the fourth line=20 from the top, which is essentially at the top stop, and will = normally=20 oscillate to the 6th line from the top.  Is this where = it is=20 supposed to be or should it be centered on the 20 unit = scale which=20 after a year of off and on fiddling seems = impossible?
James = Allen  
 
Hmmm....either=20 its my computer malfunctioned or ?, but here I see my response = to=20 Randall showing up below your message=20 above???
James,
 
It "sounds" like you need to give some more slack to the top=20 wire (top rear rotating knurled nut) ...just to allow the = frame/mass=20 to come
further down, which then allows the vertical seismometer = boom/mass to get within the true center range of = your
boom range/pointer mechanism.  It normally should be = able to=20 range over the entire pointer scale of course.  My wild guess = is that=20 the previous
owner/s had the same (which IS entirely solvable) = problem also;=20 but didn't do the necessary adjustment/s.
 
Remove the coil and dampening coil wires before exploring the = adjustment mechanisms.  I don't know what you've done before; = so,=20 all
I can do is text the below.
 
At the rear top is a knurled round threaded wire adjustment=20 which will raise/lower the wire (and which changes the = period). =20 Try rotating that
slowly over whatever reaction range first....in = conjunction=20 with varying the front set screw, which you'll need to do probably = constantly.  Its
entirely possible that even a slight partial rotation or = more;=20 will get you into a full range of its indicator pointer.  =
 
Another potential "indicator/answer" could lie in your = front=20 single set screw adjustment setting.  Try rotating that = over a=20 reasonable range
and observe whether the boom/mass hits the stop at = the top=20 the majority of the time.  If (the boom/pointer) hits = the top=20 stop limit and stays there the
majority of the set screw range change; then = that reaction=20 would might re-affirm you need for more wire slack as above.
 
Adjusting both the front set screw and the top back = screw is=20 critical for this "boom/mass balance/pointer range" or in = short; just=20 being able to
see its oscillation movement range.  The whole thing is = kind of=20 a crude weight balance with the spring acting as kind of a varying = pivot=20 force.
 
IF.....you've done all this before (?), and it still tends to = go to=20 the upper range limit/stop....then you might actually have to = unclamp=20 the
compression wire fitting and feed abit more wire down.  = Thats a=20 really nasty job, as you'll be physically fighting the strong = spring=20 tension
while trying to place the wire lower and also be ready to = tighten the=20 compression wire clamp.  Its possible that the previous = owner/s=20 might
have cut off the exposed wire coming out of the wire = adjustment at=20 the top/back (?), there should normally be some wire coming out=20 there?
If there isn't any wire....and you're at the limit of=20 adjustments...you may have to rewire it to give more room/slack of = course.  We can get
into that if necessary.
 
I have a love-hate relationship with this coil/magnet = vertical. =20 I like its long mechanical period; but I hate its temperature=20 sensitivity.  All in all, its
worth fussing with....theres no real mechanical alternative = of=20 course; outside of electronic extension of lesser period gizmo's. =  =20 Most
amateurs have no vertical whatsoever....
 
Take care, Meredith
 
 
 
 
 
         =20 =

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