Thanks for the additional information James Allen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: meredith lamb=20 To: psn-l@................. Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER James, Wonderful attitude! One more thing...sometimes the adjustment nuts, = collars etc., have a hex setscrew/s position lock/s somewhere thereon; = look for them, and release, or tighten down as necessary also. =20 Take care, Meredith On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM, JAMES ALLEN= wrote: Thanks Meredith. I appreciate all the recommendations and tips for = adjusting what I think is a "beautiful piece of seismic equipment". = Your email has re-inspired me to really tackle this challenge. I will = let you know how it turns out. =20 Many thanks again for you wisdom and help. James Allen ----- Original Message -----=20 From: meredith lamb=20 To: psn-l@................. Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, JAMES ALLEN = wrote: Meredith Lamb or any member using a Sprengnether 201 Long Period = unit: There is an scale on the front of mine with the indicator pointer = that is at the fourth line from the top, which is essentially at the top = stop, and will normally oscillate to the 6th line from the top. Is this = where it is supposed to be or should it be centered on the 20 unit scale = which after a year of off and on fiddling seems impossible? James Allen =20 Hmmm....either its my computer malfunctioned or ?, but here I = see my response to Randall showing up below your message above??? James, It "sounds" like you need to give some more slack to the top wire = (top rear rotating knurled nut) ...just to allow the frame/mass to come further down, which then allows the vertical seismometer boom/mass = to get within the true center range of your boom range/pointer mechanism. It normally should be able to range = over the entire pointer scale of course. My wild guess is that the = previous owner/s had the same (which IS entirely solvable) problem also; = but didn't do the necessary adjustment/s. Remove the coil and dampening coil wires before exploring the = adjustment mechanisms. I don't know what you've done before; so, all I can do is text the below. At the rear top is a knurled round threaded wire adjustment which = will raise/lower the wire (and which changes the period). Try rotating = that slowly over whatever reaction range first....in conjunction with = varying the front set screw, which you'll need to do probably = constantly. Its entirely possible that even a slight partial rotation or more; = will get you into a full range of its indicator pointer. =20 Another potential "indicator/answer" could lie in your front = single set screw adjustment setting. Try rotating that over a = reasonable range and observe whether the boom/mass hits the stop at the top the = majority of the time. If (the boom/pointer) hits the top stop limit and = stays there the majority of the set screw range change; then that reaction would = might re-affirm you need for more wire slack as above. Adjusting both the front set screw and the top back screw is = critical for this "boom/mass balance/pointer range" or in short; just = being able to see its oscillation movement range. The whole thing is kind of a = crude weight balance with the spring acting as kind of a varying pivot = force. IF.....you've done all this before (?), and it still tends to go = to the upper range limit/stop....then you might actually have to unclamp = the compression wire fitting and feed abit more wire down. Thats a = really nasty job, as you'll be physically fighting the strong spring = tension while trying to place the wire lower and also be ready to tighten = the compression wire clamp. Its possible that the previous owner/s = might have cut off the exposed wire coming out of the wire adjustment at = the top/back (?), there should normally be some wire coming out there? If there isn't any wire....and you're at the limit of = adjustments...you may have to rewire it to give more room/slack of = course. We can get into that if necessary. I have a love-hate relationship with this coil/magnet vertical. I = like its long mechanical period; but I hate its temperature sensitivity. = All in all, its worth fussing with....theres no real mechanical alternative of = course; outside of electronic extension of lesser period gizmo's. Most = amateurs have no vertical whatsoever.... Take care, Meredith =20 Thanks for the additional = informationJames Allen----- Original Message -----From:=20 meredith lambSent: Friday, August 15, 2008 = 11:12=20 PMSubject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 = LONG PERIOD=20 VERTICAL SEISMOMETERJames,Wonderful attitude! One more thing...sometimes the = adjustment=20 nuts, collars etc., have a hex setscrew/s position lock/s somewhere = thereon;=20 look for them, andrelease, or tighten down as necessary also. =Take care, MeredithOn Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM, JAMES ALLEN = <jcallen1@...........> = wrote:
Thanks Meredith. I appreciate = all the=20 recommendations and tips for adjusting what I think is a "beautiful = piece of=20 seismic equipment". Your email has re-inspired me to really = tackle=20 this challenge. I will let you know how it turns out. =20Many thanks again for you wisdom = and=20 help.James AllenSent: Friday, August 15, = 2008 8:35=20 AMSubject: Re: SPRENGNETHER = 201 LONG=20 PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, JAMES = ALLEN <jcallen1@...........> wrote:
Meredith Lamb or any member = using a=20 Sprengnether 201 Long Period unit: There is an scale = on the=20 front of mine with the indicator pointer that is at = the fourth line=20 from the top, which is essentially at the top stop, and will = normally=20 oscillate to the 6th line from the top. Is this where = it is=20 supposed to be or should it be centered on the 20 unit = scale which=20 after a year of off and on fiddling seems = impossible?James = AllenHmmm....either=20 its my computer malfunctioned or ?, but here I see my response = to=20 Randall showing up below your message=20 above???James,It "sounds" like you need to give some more slack to the top=20 wire (top rear rotating knurled nut) ...just to allow the = frame/mass=20 to comefurther down, which then allows the vertical seismometer = boom/mass to get within the true center range of = yourboom range/pointer mechanism. It normally should be = able to=20 range over the entire pointer scale of course. My wild guess = is that=20 the previousowner/s had the same (which IS entirely solvable) = problem also;=20 but didn't do the necessary adjustment/s.Remove the coil and dampening coil wires before exploring the = adjustment mechanisms. I don't know what you've done before; = so,=20 allI can do is text the below.At the rear top is a knurled round threaded wire adjustment=20 which will raise/lower the wire (and which changes the = period). =20 Try rotating thatslowly over whatever reaction range first....in = conjunction=20 with varying the front set screw, which you'll need to do probably = constantly. Itsentirely possible that even a slight partial rotation or = more;=20 will get you into a full range of its indicator pointer. =Another potential "indicator/answer" could lie in your = front=20 single set screw adjustment setting. Try rotating that = over a=20 reasonable rangeand observe whether the boom/mass hits the stop at = the top=20 the majority of the time. If (the boom/pointer) hits = the top=20 stop limit and stays there themajority of the set screw range change; then = that reaction=20 would might re-affirm you need for more wire slack as above.Adjusting both the front set screw and the top back = screw is=20 critical for this "boom/mass balance/pointer range" or in = short; just=20 being able tosee its oscillation movement range. The whole thing is = kind of=20 a crude weight balance with the spring acting as kind of a varying = pivot=20 force.IF.....you've done all this before (?), and it still tends to = go to=20 the upper range limit/stop....then you might actually have to = unclamp=20 thecompression wire fitting and feed abit more wire down. = Thats a=20 really nasty job, as you'll be physically fighting the strong = spring=20 tensionwhile trying to place the wire lower and also be ready to = tighten the=20 compression wire clamp. Its possible that the previous = owner/s=20 mighthave cut off the exposed wire coming out of the wire = adjustment at=20 the top/back (?), there should normally be some wire coming out=20 there?If there isn't any wire....and you're at the limit of=20 adjustments...you may have to rewire it to give more room/slack of = course. We can getinto that if necessary.I have a love-hate relationship with this coil/magnet = vertical. =20 I like its long mechanical period; but I hate its temperature=20 sensitivity. All in all, itsworth fussing with....theres no real mechanical alternative = of=20 course; outside of electronic extension of lesser period gizmo's. = =20 Mostamateurs have no vertical whatsoever....Take care, Meredith=20 =
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