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Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER
From: "JAMES ALLEN" jcallen1@...........
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:39:23 -0700


Thanks a million Meredith.  I will buy a couple of them this weekend and =
give it a try.  BTW, the thread between You, Dick and Chris was =
extremely helpful in causing me to rethink my situation involving my =
vertical.  I had just assumed that it was all stock until I read you =
guys exchanges.  I am much appreciative to all of you.
James Allen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: meredith lamb=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 LONG PERIOD VERTICAL SEISMOMETER


  Hi James,

  My wild Imagination says it might even be tough baling wire (ha); but =
of course I don't really know.

  Heres another flat hinge spring source material scenario you could =
consider (assuming you will replace such).  It involves
  automotive and/or machinist feeler/thickness gauge sets.  I've not =
actually checked; but one could assume the likelyhood
  that chains like Autozone, etc., will have these readily on hand.  =
They usually come in ~ muliple sizes "leaves" of different
  size thicknesses (usually marked thereon with the size thickness =
thereon).  They are stacked and anchored at one end, and can be
  extended outward per each size.  They range ~ from one thousandth or =
so inch thick upward to roughly 20 thousandth of
  a inch thick.  I think they are usually cheap per each set; I just saw =
Amazon.com, with sellers offering such at around
  $3.60...but the sticker is; the high ~$6 shipping.  Obviously if you =
buy locally, its alot cheaper.  Anyway, you would need
  two sets of such to get two same sizes of whatever you use.  Drill out =
the rivot anchor/s, and then you have all manner of sizes to
  explore as hinges for your vertical.  Of course; nowadays, they could =
also be marked as metric, or even both ways thereon.

  Actually, I think they are tougher and much less prone to "aquiring" =
accidental bent areas in them, than phosphur bronze or even
  tempered blue spring stock/coil/shim.   You will still have to use a =
hand shear tool and reduce the widths; and a followup hand file
  to get rid of the burrs along the cut edge.

  I suppose they could be rather a ideal thickness variety set for any =
amateur seeking to build their own vertical hinges.=20

  What size to initially try/use (?)....my guess is anything between =
0.005 and 0.010' thick.

  You might anticipate that your present wire probably gouged into the =
aluminum clamp surfaces.  Check and lightly file it flat if
  necessary.

  Take care, Meredith
   =20


  On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, JAMES ALLEN  =
wrote:

    Hello Meredith, Dick, Chris  I rechecked the wire hinges coming from =
mine.  I do not have a micrometer, but there is one wire per hinge =
(black) which is relatively rough and not shinny like piano wire but =
just as springy.  I suppose it is steel wire and smaller in diameter =
than that used for a paper clip.  Now, I am beginning to under stand =
that this must not be original to the unit and should be a flat flexible =
hinge instead.  Perhaps that is the reason I have been having so much =
trouble getting the seismometer boom to remain centered. =20
    James Allen








Thanks a million Meredith.  I will = buy a=20 couple of them this weekend and give it a try.  BTW, the thread = between=20 You, Dick and Chris was extremely helpful in causing me to rethink my = situation=20 involving my vertical.  I had just assumed that it was all stock = until I=20 read you guys exchanges.  I am much appreciative to all of=20 you.
James Allen
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 meredith lamb
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 = 10:45=20 AM
Subject: Re: SPRENGNETHER 201 = LONG PERIOD=20 VERTICAL SEISMOMETER

Hi James,

My wild Imagination says it might even = be tough=20 baling wire (ha); but of course I don't really know.

Heres = another flat=20 hinge spring source material scenario you could consider (assuming you = will=20 replace such).  It involves
automotive and/or machinist=20 feeler/thickness gauge sets.  I've not actually checked; but one = could=20 assume the likelyhood
that chains like Autozone, etc., will have = these=20 readily on hand.  They usually come in ~ muliple sizes "leaves" = of=20 different
size thicknesses (usually marked thereon with the size = thickness=20 thereon).  They are stacked and anchored at one end, and can=20 be
extended outward per each size.  They range ~ from one = thousandth=20 or so inch thick upward to roughly 20 thousandth of
a inch = thick.  I=20 think they are usually cheap per each set; I just saw Amazon.com, with = sellers=20 offering such at around
$3.60...but the sticker is; the high ~$6=20 shipping.  Obviously if you buy locally, its alot cheaper.  = Anyway,=20 you would need
two sets of such to get two same sizes of whatever = you=20 use.  Drill out the rivot anchor/s, and then you have all manner = of sizes=20 to
explore as hinges for your vertical.  Of course; nowadays, = they=20 could also be marked as metric, or even both ways = thereon.

Actually, I=20 think they are tougher and much less prone to "aquiring" accidental = bent areas=20 in them, than phosphur bronze or even
tempered blue spring = stock/coil/shim.=20   You will still have to use a hand shear tool and reduce the = widths; and=20 a followup hand file
to get rid of the burrs along the cut = edge.

I=20 suppose they could be rather a ideal thickness variety set for any = amateur=20 seeking to build their own vertical hinges.

What size to = initially=20 try/use (?)....my guess is anything between 0.005 and 0.010' = thick.

You=20 might anticipate that your present wire probably gouged into the = aluminum=20 clamp surfaces.  Check and lightly file it flat=20 if
necessary.

Take care, Meredith
 

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:37 AM, JAMES ALLEN = <jcallen1@...........> = wrote:
Hello Meredith, Dick, Chris  I = rechecked=20 the wire hinges coming from mine.  I do not have a micrometer, = but=20 there is one wire per hinge (black) which is relatively rough and = not shinny=20 like piano wire but just as springy.  I suppose it is steel = wire and=20 smaller in diameter than that used for a paper clip.  Now, I am = beginning to under stand that this must not be original to the unit = and=20 should be a flat flexible hinge instead.  Perhaps that is the = reason I=20 have been having so much trouble getting the seismometer boom to = remain=20 centered. 
James Allen


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