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Subject: Re: Question on seting up a seismograph
From: tchannel1@............
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:11:45 -0600
Hi Rudy, On these questions you will get a lot of help. I too started =
in my garage, here is what I found.
1. I first just built the sensor and got it up and running, with no =
cover at all. It worked fine but the air currents I made, as I walked =
by, created large spikes, noise. Just pointing out the obvious these =
sensors are very very sensitive to air movement. =20
2. The next thing I noticed was each morning or night, with no air =
movement in the garage, the background noise changed dramatically, as it =
was still uncovered. The cause was the cold concrete flood was cooler =
than the air, and caused small undetected air currents, rising up. =
This was seen on the screen as night time vs. day time differences in =
large background noises. This was all new to me as this was my first =
involvement. Both of these problems were corrected by enclosing the =
sensor in a box. Much has been written about the best way to build an =
enclosure. I tried different enclosures and found all of them to be =
improvements. I tried an inverted fish aquarium. I tried a wood frame =
covered with blankets. I tried Styrofoam box. I tried Plexiglas box. =
I tried insulated and uninsulated. I tried sealing the box to the =
floor and unsealed.
Even a simple cardboard box. These all worked, some better than =
others. However after correcting these issues, most of my unwanted =
noise came from the Daytime city activities. It would start at 7:00am =
and end at 5:00pm. Things would always quiet down at night, with =
little background noise.
3. Another observation about my garage floor. It is made of several =
divided sections or slabs. I thought these large sections of concrete =
were solid. But to the sensor they were as flexible as thin plywood. =
If you moved from one section to another the sensor would pick it up as =
if you were moving from one teeter totter to another. This did not =
stop me from using this concrete floor. I just realized you could not =
walk around in the garage without creating noise.
I used the garage for many months. It was handy and after I realized =
the sensor needed an enclosure and I could not walk around out there it =
worked fine for me. For some people the garage may be the only place =
they have and it worked for me.
Ted
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Rudy Norvelle=20
To: psn-l@.................
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: Question on seting up a seismograph
I am a long time lurker on this list and am finally getting around to =
setting up my seismograph, however the only place I will have available =
to set it up will be in my garage. I know that this will not be the =
most advantageous place to do so. Has anyone set one up in their garage =
and what would be the best way of isolating the seismograph from some of =
the noise? I know I will have a fair amount of background noise and was =
hoping that I can isolate it so that I can get meaningful event =
recordings. I am at this time leaning toward a Lehman type sensor with =
Larry's Hardware. Any help or directions to websites would be =
appreciated.
thanks,
Hi Rudy, On these questions you =
will get a=20
lot of help. I too started in my garage, here is what I=20
found.
1. I first just built the sensor =
and got it=20
up and running, with no cover at all. It worked fine but the =
air=20
currents I made, as I walked by, created large spikes, noise. Just =
pointing out the obvious these sensors are very very =
sensitive =20
to air movement.
2. The next thing I noticed was =
each morning=20
or night, with no air movement in the garage, the background noise =
changed=20
dramatically, as it was still uncovered. The cause was the =
cold=20
concrete flood was cooler than the air, and caused small undetected air=20
currents, rising up. This was seen on the screen as night =
time vs.=20
day time differences in large background noises. This was all new =
to me as=20
this was my first involvement. Both of these problems =
were=20
corrected by enclosing the sensor in a box. Much has been =
written=20
about the best way to build an enclosure. I tried different =
enclosures and=20
found all of them to be improvements. I tried an inverted fish=20
aquarium. I tried a wood frame covered with blankets. I =
tried=20
Styrofoam box. I tried Plexiglas box. I tried insulated and=20
uninsulated. I tried sealing the box to the floor and=20
unsealed.
Even a simple cardboard =
box. These all=20
worked, some better than others. However after correcting =
these=20
issues, most of my unwanted noise came from the Daytime city=20
activities. It would start at 7:00am and end at =
5:00pm. =20
Things would always quiet down at night, with little background=20
noise.
3. Another observation about my =
garage=20
floor. It is made of several divided sections or =
slabs. I=20
thought these large sections of concrete were solid. But to the =
sensor=20
they were as flexible as thin plywood. If you moved from one =
section to=20
another the sensor would pick it up as if you were moving from one =
teeter totter=20
to another. This did not stop me from using this concrete=20
floor. I just realized you could not walk around in the =
garage=20
without creating noise.
I used the garage for many =
months. It=20
was handy and after I realized the sensor needed an enclosure and I =
could not=20
walk around out there it worked fine for me. For some people =
the=20
garage may be the only place they have and it worked for =
me.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 =
6:09=20
PM
Subject: Question on seting up =
a=20
seismograph
I am a long time lurker on this =
list and=20
am finally getting around to setting up my seismograph, however the =
only place=20
I will have available to set it up will be in my garage. I know =
that=20
this will not be the most advantageous place to do so. Has =
anyone set=20
one up in their garage and what would be the best way of isolating the =
seismograph from some of the noise? I know I will have a fair =
amount of=20
background noise and was hoping that I can isolate it so that I can =
get =20
meaningful event recordings. I am at this time leaning toward a =
Lehman=20
type sensor with Larry's Hardware. Any help or directions to =
websites=20
would be appreciated.
thanks,
Rudy=20
Norvelle
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