Hi Goeff.

For clarification, nobody's machine is infected!  The problem that Norton 
shows a warning window that  John Clahr's website  http://jclahr.com/  is 
infected.  We believe it is NOT.  It seems to be a problem with Norton's 
installation of their Toolbar and Norton Safe Web settings.  Disabling the 
latter removes the popup and the site cause NO problems with normal a/v 
searches.

Regards,
Jerry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoffrey" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Warning: Computer trojan horse on JCLAHR.COM


> Was this so called malware riding on a downloaded file
> or just how did it get into your machine ?
>
> I have never received bad files to my knowledge
> without having a virus be a part of
> executable code in something intentionally
> downloaded.
>
> Then it gets saved to the recovery files
> automatically forcing you to reset the
> recovery points to get rid of the bad messages ?
>
> I would recommend possibly immunizing your
> machine with spybot which loads a mess
> of bad sites into your normal browser
> blocking security thingy.
>
> Then you donate maybe $5 to them for
> being such nice folks.
>
> Sure beats all the moola they want every
> year for whatever scanners.
>
> But many times I wonder seriously if the
> anti virus peoples are hiring or encouraging
> other third parties to make viruses in some
> kind of collusional scheme to keep alive
> the scanner thingy I always thought was
> so ridiculous in the first place.
>
>
> If windows would remove all those hidden servers
> that run in the background as well as any interpreter
> programs there would be no worries unless you run the bad
> code yourself.
>
> SERVERS and Interpreters are the only kind of bad
> things I know a system may have that will
> allow others to control or destroy your machine.
> (Like Blasting the bios or wiping or corrupting)
> As for spyware the USA does not allow the private
> citizen the pleasure of keeping secrets, only that
> stupid thing called privacy which essentially
> protects you from nothing at all.
> Privacy means anyone can watch what they want
> and must turn their heads unless something is illegal.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "meredith lamb" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:14 AM
> Subject: Warning: Computer trojan horse on JCLAHR.COM
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> My Norton/Symantec 360 program detects 15 instances of the computer 
>> trojan
>> "Downloader" virus on
>> the recently used link of JCLAHR.COM.
>>
>> My anti-virus program wouldn't even let me view the 15 page 
>> link/s....their
>> maybe more....
>>
>> If you've been there recently you're quite possibly, computer infected 
>> (?).
>>
>> "Downloader":  This trojan horse is a program that downloads another
>> malicious program from a remote
>> internet site and executes it on the local system.
>>
>> Systems affected:  Windows 2000, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me, 
>> Windows
>> NT, Windows XP
>>
>> For whatever its worth, I've used Norton/Symantec 360 for over a year and 
>> my
>> recommendation is very high.
>> One can do things with this program; the "others" don't even begin to do.
>>
>> Meredith Lamb
>>
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