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Subject: Re: Hypodermic Tubing
From: "James Allen" jcallen1@...........
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:55:52 -0700


Thanks George for the offer. I would really appreciate receiving a =
picture of the pen assembly.  My email address is:  =
jcallen1@............
Thanks=20
James Allen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: George Bush=20
  To: psn-l@.................
  Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 12:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Hypodermic Tubing


  James-

  I have a drum recorder that was originaly built by Howard Grebin and =
he built an ink pen like you are describing. He used capillary tubing, =
hypo needle and sheet brass shim stock all soft-soldered together. It =
has performed flawlessly for me for decades.

  I would be glad to send you a picture of the pen detail so you could =
see how he attached it to the galvanometer.

  George


  At 09:48 AM 10/25/2009, you wrote:

    =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF=20
    Thanks Chris, Steve, Al, and Meredith for all your help.  I secured =
some very thin capillary tubing and a hypo. needle.  Will test approach =
and then try to cobble together attaching it to the existing stylus on =
the helicorder.  Will let the list know results.  It really is great =
knowing one is not alone on this quest.
    James Allen
    Cerritos, Ca.

      ----- Original Message -----=20

      From: ChrisAtUpw@..........

      To: psn-l@.................

      Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:40 AM

      Subject: Re: Hypodermic Tubing


      In a message dated 25/10/2009, jcallen1@........... writes:



        For some time some PSN members were using hypodermic needles to =
build ink pens. You simply grind the point off and have a precesion tip =
that  can then be connected to the reservoir using a capillary feed =
tube. We learned the process from Howard who used this design back in =
the first Bay area seismic station way before our time in the =
40=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s. I ran two drum recorders back around 1990 =
and Jan Froom currently has a display station at Bonfante Gardens  in =
Gilroy CA that has a permanent display he put together for them Regards, =
Steve Hammond PSN Aptos, CA


      Hi James,

         =20

          If you want to get ready supplies of fine SS hypodermic tubing =
see www.smallparts.com They have a very wide range. You can vary the =
flow rate by inserting a variable length of wire through the ink =
reservoir and into the capillary tube. It would probably be easier to =
get fine Nichrome wire than stainless steel.=20

          Alternatively, some companies used to make pens with a coarse =
tube to the reservoir and a fine 'nib' tube pushed into in the other =
end. There are only a limited range of hypodermic needles produced and =
some suppliers refuse to supply non medics, or only sell in boxed =
quantities.



          Regards,



          Chris Chapman



  George Bush
  Sea Ranch, CA, USA
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Thanks George for the offer. = I would really appreciate receiving a picture of the pen=20 assembly.  My email address is:  jcallen1@............
Thanks
James Allen
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George = Bush
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 = 12:45=20 PM
Subject: Re: Hypodermic = Tubing

James-

I have a drum recorder that was originaly = built=20 by Howard Grebin and he built an ink pen like you are describing. He = used=20 capillary tubing, hypo needle and sheet brass shim stock all = soft-soldered=20 together. It has performed flawlessly for me for decades.

I = would be=20 glad to send you a picture of the pen detail so you could see how he = attached=20 it to the galvanometer.

George


At 09:48 AM = 10/25/2009, you=20 wrote:
=C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF =
Thanks Chris, Steve, Al,=20 and Meredith for all your help.  I secured some very thin = capillary=20 tubing and a hypo. needle.  Will test approach and then try to = cobble=20 together attaching it to the existing stylus on the = helicorder.  Will=20 let the list know results.  It really is great knowing one is = not alone=20 on this quest.
James Allen
Cerritos, Ca.
----- Original Message -----
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......=20
To: psn-l@..............=20
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: Hypodermic Tubing

In a message dated 25/10/2009, jcallen1@...........=20 writes:

For some time some PSN members were using hypodermic needles = to=20 build ink pens. You simply grind the point off and have a = precesion tip=20 that  can then be connected to the reservoir using a = capillary feed=20 tube. We learned the process from Howard who used this design = back in=20 the first Bay area seismic station way before our time in the = 40=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s. I=20 ran two drum recorders back around 1990 and Jan Froom currently = has a=20 display station at Bonfante Gardens  in Gilroy CA that has = a=20 permanent display he put together for them Regards, Steve = Hammond PSN=20 Aptos, CA

Hi James,
   
    If you want to get ready supplies of fine = SS=20 hypodermic tubing see www.smallparts.com They = have a very=20 wide range. You can vary the flow rate by inserting a variable = length of=20 wire through the ink reservoir and into the capillary tube. It = would=20 probably be easier to get fine Nichrome wire than stainless steel. =
    Alternatively, some companies used to make = pens=20 with a coarse tube to the reservoir and a fine 'nib' tube pushed = into in=20 the other end. There are only a limited range of hypodermic = needles=20 produced and some suppliers refuse to supply non medics, or only = sell in=20 boxed quantities.

 
    Regards,

 
    Chris = Chapman


George Bush
Sea Ranch, CA, USA
38.73775N, = 123.48882W=20

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