I think there is something else going on. The location of the video had to =
be very close to the epicenter to display the amount of movement. My eye sa=
w that the dog moved ~ 6 sec before the visable shaking. I would think that=
 being that close to the epicenter there wouldn't be surface waves. The sha=
king was probably the P and S waves. I am ~ 350 km from the event and I sho=
wed an abrupt P arrival. I think the dog was sensing something else. Maybe =
a smaller event just prior to the main event? Maybe looking on other helico=
rder sites in the area would shed some light as to whether it was ground mo=
tion.

Regards
Barry
http://www.seismicvault.com

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Kareem Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Com  wrote:

From: Kareem Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Com 
Subject: RE: Animals and Earthquakes
To: psn-l@..............
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:36 PM

=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThis is why I sent that link yesterday s=
howing the dog reacting=0Adramatically before the floor (and everything els=
e) moved violently from the=0AM6.5 Nothern Cal Quake. Most of the time with=
 camera footage, one is not always=0Aable to detect every bit of motion. So=
, who knows if that dog was reacting to=0Asmall nearly imperceptible moveme=
nt that was probably going on just prior to=0Athe obvious side to side moti=
on that we saw. Or was the dog reacting to low=0Afrequency noises that occu=
r in the earth=E2=80=99s electromagnetic field just=0Aprior to an event? Do=
n=E2=80=99t know. There was a man in the same room with the=0Adog and he wa=
s sitting in a chair. He reacted just as the floor motion started=0Abut by =
the then, the dog had already made a bee-line out of the there.  =0A=0A =C2=
=A0 =0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DaAzZIH4_X-s =0A=0A =C2=A0 =0A=0A=
 =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom:=0Apsn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-=
l-request@............... On Behalf=0AOf Kay Wyatt
=0ASent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:37 AM
=0ATo: psn-l@..............
=0ASubject: Animals and Earthquakes =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A=
=C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI'm not sure=0Ahow many of you are aware of the CE=
RT program (Community Emergency Response=0ATeam) which was developed in 198=
5 by the Los Angeles City Fire Department in=0A1985 to train ordinary citiz=
ens to be first responders in a major=0Adisaster.=C2=A0 The program was lat=
er adopted by FEMA (1993) and the training=0Amaterials are available online=
 at http://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/index.shtm =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 =
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIn their=0Atraining manual they discuss various earthquak=
e myths.=C2=A0 One of them=0Aperplexes me and I would love to hear from any=
one who can explain this.=C2=A0=0ABelow is the material in their training m=
anual.=C2=A0 My questions is what are=0Athe "first low frequency waves of a=
n earthquake" that come PRIOR to=0Athe primary and secondary waves?=C2=A0 A=
re they talking about EM or non seismic=0Awaves? =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 =
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATheir=0Atraining guide..... =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 =0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A  =0A  Myth: =0A  =0A  =0A  Animals can sense earthqu=
akes and=0A  give advance warning. =0A   =C2=A0 =0A  =0A =0A =0A  =0A  Fact=
: =0A  =0A  =0A  Animals may be able to sense the first low-frequency waves=
=0A  of an earthquake that occur deep within the Earth, but the damage-caus=
ing=0A  primary and secondary waves follow just seconds behind.=C2=A0 Anima=
ls do not=0A  make good earthquake warning devices. =0A   =C2=A0 =0A  =0A =
I think there is something else going on. The=
 location of the video had to be very close to the epicenter to display the=
 amount of movement. My eye saw that the dog moved ~ 6 sec before the visab=
le shaking. I would think that being that close to the epicenter there woul=
dn't be surface waves. The shaking was probably the P and S waves. I am ~ 3=
50 km from the event and I showed an abrupt P arrival. I think the dog was =
sensing something else. Maybe a smaller event just prior to the main event?=
 Maybe looking on other helicorder sites in the area would shed some light =
as to whether it was ground motion.

Regards
Barry
http://www.seismi=
cvault.com

--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Kareem Lanier from Heyjooj=
oo.Com <system98765@.............> wrote:

From: Kareem Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Com <system98765@he=
yjoojoo.com>
Subject: RE: Animals and Earthquakes
To: psn-l@webtro=
nics.com
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:36 PM

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This is why I sent that link yesterday showing the =
dog reacting=0Adramatically before the floor (and everything else) moved vi=
olently from the=0AM6.5 Nothern Cal Quake. Most of the time with camera foo=
tage, one is not always=0Aable to detect every bit of motion. So, who knows=
 if that dog was reacting to=0Asmall nearly imperceptible movement that was=
 probably going on just prior to=0Athe obvious side to side motion that we =
saw. Or was the dog reacting to low=0Afrequency noises that occur in the ea=
rth=E2=80=99s electromagnetic field just=0Aprior to an event? Don=E2=80=99t=
 know. There was a man in the same room with the=0Adog and he was sitting i=
n a chair. He reacted just as the floor motion started=0Abut by the then, t=
he dog had already made a bee-line out of the there. 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DaAzZIH4_=
X-s
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=0A=0A
=0A=0A
From:=0Apsn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-l-request@w=
ebtronics.com] On Behalf=0AOf Kay Wyatt
=0ASent: Tuesday, =
January 12, 2010 11:37 AM
=0ATo: psn-l@..............
=0ASu=
bject: Animals and Earthquakes
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I'm not sure=
=0Ahow many of you are aware of the CERT program (Community Emergency Respo=
nse=0ATeam) which was developed in 1985 by the Los Angeles City Fire Depart=
ment in=0A1985 to train ordinary citizens to be first responders in a major=
=0Adisaster.  The program was later adopted by FEMA (1993) and the tra=
ining=0Amaterials are available online at http://www.citize=
ncorps.gov/cert/index.shtm
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=0A=0A
In their=0Atraining manual they discuss various earthquake myths.  =
One of them=0Aperplexes me and I would love to hear from anyone who can exp=
lain this. =0ABelow is the material in their training manual.  My=
 questions is what are=0Athe "first low frequency waves of an earthquake" t=
hat come PRIOR to=0Athe primary and secondary waves?  Are they talking=
 about EM or non seismic=0Awaves?
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