More thoughts on Mr Dog. I did a little math. If the the P wave travels at 5-8 km/sec then if we use= 7 km/sec and the dog moved ~ 6 sec before the noticeable movement (lets as= sume the P wave). This would relate to ~ 42 km. Ferndale ( as an example of= a close town) is about 37 km from the epicenter but the the hypo center is= @ a depth of 16 km. This would equal ~ 39 km travel distance. Close to 42 = km. I don't know the travel speed of electro magnet waves but I would assum= e they would be near the speed of light. I'm not sure in the earth. If one = were to assume that it was instantaneous then maybe the dog was sensing som= e sort of electro magnet waves generated by the initiation of the event. Regards Barry http://www.seismicvault.com --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Kareem Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Comwrote: From: Kareem Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Com Subject: RE: Animals and Earthquakes To: psn-l@.............. Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 12:36 PM =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThis is why I sent that link yesterday s= howing the dog reacting=0Adramatically before the floor (and everything els= e) moved violently from the=0AM6.5 Nothern Cal Quake. Most of the time with= camera footage, one is not always=0Aable to detect every bit of motion. So= , who knows if that dog was reacting to=0Asmall nearly imperceptible moveme= nt that was probably going on just prior to=0Athe obvious side to side moti= on that we saw. Or was the dog reacting to low=0Afrequency noises that occu= r in the earth=E2=80=99s electromagnetic field just=0Aprior to an event? Do= n=E2=80=99t know. There was a man in the same room with the=0Adog and he wa= s sitting in a chair. He reacted just as the floor motion started=0Abut by = the then, the dog had already made a bee-line out of the there. =0A=0A =C2= =A0 =0A=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DaAzZIH4_X-s =0A=0A =C2=A0 =0A=0A= =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom:=0Apsn-l-request@.............. [mailto:psn-= l-request@............... On Behalf=0AOf Kay Wyatt =0ASent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:37 AM =0ATo: psn-l@.............. =0ASubject: Animals and Earthquakes =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A= =C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI'm not sure=0Ahow many of you are aware of the CE= RT program (Community Emergency Response=0ATeam) which was developed in 198= 5 by the Los Angeles City Fire Department in=0A1985 to train ordinary citiz= ens to be first responders in a major=0Adisaster.=C2=A0 The program was lat= er adopted by FEMA (1993) and the training=0Amaterials are available online= at http://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/index.shtm =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 = =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIn their=0Atraining manual they discuss various earthquak= e myths.=C2=A0 One of them=0Aperplexes me and I would love to hear from any= one who can explain this.=C2=A0=0ABelow is the material in their training m= anual.=C2=A0 My questions is what are=0Athe "first low frequency waves of a= n earthquake" that come PRIOR to=0Athe primary and secondary waves?=C2=A0 A= re they talking about EM or non seismic=0Awaves? =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 = =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ATheir=0Atraining guide..... =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 =0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A Myth: =0A =0A =0A Animals can sense earthqu= akes and=0A give advance warning. =0A =C2=A0 =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A Fact= : =0A =0A =0A Animals may be able to sense the first low-frequency waves= =0A of an earthquake that occur deep within the Earth, but the damage-caus= ing=0A primary and secondary waves follow just seconds behind.=C2=A0 Anima= ls do not=0A make good earthquake warning devices. =0A =C2=A0 =0A =0A =
More thoughts on Mr Dog.
I did a little ma= th. If the the P wave travels at 5-8 km/sec then if we use 7 km/sec and the= dog moved ~ 6 sec before the noticeable movement (lets assume the P wave).= This would relate to ~ 42 km. Ferndale ( as an example of a close town) is= about 37 km from the epicenter but the the hypo center is @ a depth of 16 = km. This would equal ~ 39 km travel distance. Close to 42 km. I don't know = the travel speed of electro magnet waves but I would assume they would be n= ear the speed of light. I'm not sure in the earth. If one were to assume th= at it was instantaneous then maybe the dog was sensing some sort of electro= magnet waves generated by the initiation of the event.
Regards
B= arry
http://www.seismicvault.com
--- On Tue, 1/12/10, Kareem Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Com <system98765@hey= joojoo.com> wrote:
From: Kareem = Lanier from Heyjoojoo.Com <system98765@.............>
Subject: RE:= Animals and Earthquakes
To: psn-l@..............
Date: Tuesday, Janu= ary 12, 2010, 12:36 PM=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0AThis is why I sent that li= nk yesterday showing the dog reacting=0Adramatically before the floor (and = everything else) moved violently from the=0AM6.5 Nothern Cal Quake. Most of= the time with camera footage, one is not always=0Aable to detect every bit= of motion. So, who knows if that dog was reacting to=0Asmall nearly imperc= eptible movement that was probably going on just prior to=0Athe obvious sid= e to side motion that we saw. Or was the dog reacting to low=0Afrequency no= ises that occur in the earth=E2=80=99s electromagnetic field just=0Aprior t= o an event? Don=E2=80=99t know. There was a man in the same room with the= =0Adog and he was sitting in a chair. He reacted just as the floor motion s= tarted=0Abut by the then, the dog had already made a bee-line out of the th= ere.
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http://www.you= tube.com/watch?v=3DaAzZIH4_X-s
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=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= From:=0Apsn-l-request@............ com [mailto:psn-l-request@............... On Behalf=0AOf Kay Wyatt=0ASent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:37 AM
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=0ATo: psn-l= @..............
=0ASubject: Animals and Earthquakes=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0AI'm not sure=0Ahow many of you are aware of the CERT program = (Community Emergency Response=0ATeam) which was developed in 1985 by the Lo= s Angeles City Fire Department in=0A1985 to train ordinary citizens to be f= irst responders in a major=0Adisaster. The program was later adopted = by FEMA (1993) and the training=0Amaterials are available online at http://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/index.shtm
=0A=0A==0A=0A=0A=0A==0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0AIn their=0Atraining manual they discuss vario= us earthquake myths. One of them=0Aperplexes me and I would love to h= ear from anyone who can explain this. =0ABelow is the material in thei= r training manual. My questions is what are=0Athe "first low frequenc= y waves of an earthquake" that come PRIOR to=0Athe primary and secondary wa= ves? Are they talking about EM or non seismic=0Awaves?
=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0ATheir=0Atraining guide.....
=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A =0AMyt= h:
=0A=0A =0AAnimals can sense earthquakes and=0A give advance warning.
= =0A=0A
=0A =0A=0A =0A= Fact:
=0A=0A =0AAnimals may b= e able to sense the first low-frequency waves=0A of an earthquake that occ= ur deep within the Earth, but the damage-causing=0A primary and secondary = waves follow just seconds behind. Animals do not=0A make good earthq= uake warning devices.
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