In a message dated 06/02/2010, gmvoeth@........... writes:
What i mean is a coil like a center tapped inductor
+.......|
C
O
Gnd.....|
I
L
-.......|
CO part and the IL part have to be identical. I do not know if you can
wind such a thing all at once or need two identical yet seperate coil magnet
assemblies.
Hi Geoff,
You can wind it quite easily using two supply reels winding on both
wires at the same time.
Forget the amplifier part altogether, use what you want.
The ordinary single opamp with four resistors will allow you to wind a
single coil and use an amplifier of that type.
I have never built such a singular thing and can only guess where to begin.
I do know that inital signal strength and signal to noise ratio is
paramount for any sensor at all and not just for areas of our own interest.
Easiest way to get a good signal to noise ratio seems to be to use a two
ton (avd.) mass instead of a two pound (avd.) one. The highest density
material you can afford.
That is not neccessary or desirable.
Superconducting wire sounds ideal yet none at room temp as far as I know.
There is none and unlikely to be any in the future.
At the moment i am thinking two of your coil/magnet ideas in additive
fashion connected to the same mass.
Two coils should double the signal right from the start. Four would
quadruple it.
You usually do better by doubling the number of turns on a coil. A large
increase in the output can be readily achieved by using thicker NdFeB
magnets, rather than by using more turns on the coil. The limit is set by
diamagnetic forces on the copper wire at the edges of the magnets. Copper wire
varies in it's magnetic properties.
If you use a true differential amplifier like the INA118 with a double
wound coil, you can use finer wire since the coil resistance is not so
important. Calculate the kT noise voltage in the coil.
Regards,
Chris Chapman
In a message dated 06/02/2010, gmvoeth@........... writes:
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mass instead of a two pound (avd.) one. The highest density material you=
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That is not neccessary or desirable.
Superconducting wire sounds ideal yet none=
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There is none and unlikely to be any in the=
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At the=20
moment i am thinking two of your coil/magnet ideas in additive fashion=
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connected to the same mass.
Two coils should double the signal right=
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the start. Four would quadruple it.
You usually do better by doubling the number=
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turns on a coil. A large increase in the output can be readily achieved by=
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thicker NdFeB magnets, rather than by using more turns on the coil. The li=
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set by diamagnetic forces on the copper wire at the edges of the magnets.=
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wire varies in it's magnetic properties.
If you use a true differential amplifier like=
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INA118 with a double wound coil, you can use finer wire since the coil=20
resistance is not so important. Calculate the kT noise voltage in the coil=
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Regards,
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