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Subject: Re: Seismos
From: ChrisAtUpw@.......
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 20:39:33 EDT


In a message dated 27/05/2010, tchannel@............ writes:
 
_http://sismordia.blogspot.com/search/label/Sunday%20seismometer_ 
(http://sismordia.blogspot.com/search/label/Sunday%20seismometer) 

One question for the group. What was the  reasoning behind the very large 
masses. The use of large masses seems to be  repeated. Thanks,  Ted

Hi Ted,
 
    These seismometers were all designed before the  days of electronic 
amplifiers. Two main detection systems were in operation to  supply some signal 
gain. The early mechanical seismometers relied for gain on  coupled lever 
systems, usually driving a point scriber sliding on smoked  paper or smoked 
glass. The maximum gain achieved was about x200, but some  were x10 or less. 
Air and oil damping systems were used. Early seismometers  were not often 
damped. Due to the inevitable friction / stiction in the  lever systems, a 
very large driving mass was required to give an adequate  performance at a high 
gain. Mirror systems were used in seismoscopes, but  increasing the 
sensitivity by using multiple reflections does not seem to have  been tried. 
 
    The Russian / Galitzine seismometers post 1903 were  physically much 
smaller. Note that the horizontal seismometer is also shown.  They used coil + 
magnet detection systems driving a long period  galvanometer with a flat 
surface silvered mirror. The mirror reflected a  beam of light to a focus on a 
drum of photographic paper in a blacked out  room. Some of the gain was 
electrical and some was optical, but the  combined gains were more than 
adequate. Magnetic induction velocity damping was  used on these lower mass 
systems. But the photographic paper needed to be  developed, fixed and dried before 
it could be scanned and measured. This is a  fairly expensive process with 
commercial paper and chemicals and it takes a  significant amount of 
operator time, but it was widely used before the  development of semiconductor 
electronics in the 1970's. I wonder what happened  to the early method of 
producing photo sensitive paper by dipping ordinary paper  in Silver Nitrate 
solution?
 
    The development of long period vertical  seismometers was rapid after 
the work of LaCoste on zero length  springs in the mid 1930's and the 
development of Elinvar low Tc alloy  springs.
 
    Curiously, although good galvanometers were  available before 1880, 
they were first applied in 1903 to the Russian  seismometers. The use of 
optical systems did enable the construction  of small, high sensitivity 
instruments. Type history - seismology -  seismometer - seismograph etc into Google? I 
like the reference, since you can  adjust the enlargement.
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman





In a message dated 27/05/2010, tchannel@............ writes:
 
http://sismordia.blogspot.= com/search/label/Sunday%20seismometer
One question for the group. What= was the=20 reasoning behind the very large masses. The use of large masses seems to= be=20 repeated. Thanks,=20 Ted
Hi Ted,
 
    These seismometers were all designed before= the=20 days of electronic amplifiers. Two main detection systems were in operatio= n to=20 supply some signal gain. The early mechanical seismometers relied for gain= on=20 coupled lever systems, usually driving a point scriber sliding on smo= ked=20 paper or smoked glass. The maximum gain achieved was about x200, but= some=20 were x10 or less. Air and oil damping systems were used. Early seismo= meters=20 were not often damped. Due to the inevitable friction / stiction in= the=20 lever systems, a very large driving mass was required to give an adeq= uate=20 performance at a high gain. Mirror systems were used in seismoscopes, but= =20 increasing the sensitivity by using multiple reflections does not seem to= have=20 been tried.
 
    The Russian / Galitzine seismometers post 190= 3 were=20 physically much smaller. Note that the horizontal seismometer is also show= n.=20 They used coil + magnet detection systems driving a long period=20 galvanometer with a flat surface silvered mirror. The mirror reflecte= d a=20 beam of light to a focus on a drum of photographic paper in a blacked= out=20 room. Some of the gain was electrical and some was optical, but the= =20 combined gains were more than adequate. Magnetic induction velocity dampin= g was=20 used on these lower mass systems. But the photographic paper needed to be= =20 developed, fixed and dried before it could be scanned and measured. This= is a=20 fairly expensive process with commercial paper and chemicals and it takes= a=20 significant amount of operator time, but it was widely used befo= re the=20 development of semiconductor electronics in the 1970's. I wonder what happ= ened=20 to the early method of producing photo sensitive paper by dipping ordinary= paper=20 in Silver Nitrate solution?
 
    The development of long period vertical=20 seismometers was rapid after the work of LaCoste on zero length= =20 springs in the mid 1930's and the development of Elinvar low Tc alloy=20 springs.
 
    Curiously, although good galvanometers were= =20 available before 1880, they were first applied in 1903 to the Russian=20 seismometers. The use of optical systems did enable the construction=20 of small, high sensitivity instruments. Type history - seismology -= =20 seismometer - seismograph etc into Google? I like the reference, since you= can=20 adjust the enlargement.
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris Chapman

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