PSN-L Message - Subject: Re: SOLAR ACTIVITY VS. EARTHQUAKES

To: psn-l@.............. Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 6:48:59 PM Subject: SOLAR ACTIVITY VS. EARTHQUAKES A friend sent me a portion of a newsletter form the Space and Science = Research Center, apparently a private concern out of Florida. The = report dealt primarily with prediction of agricultural production vs = sunspot activity. But what caught my eye was the statement: "After = studying 300-plus years of data, an SSRC study also found decreased = solar activity had an 80.6% correlation with increased volcanic = activity, and 100% correlation with essentially all of the largest U. S. = earthquakes." I had never heard of such an analogy. Is this make believe? =20 Al Hrubetz

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"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the = persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments, and the tendency of people to = disparage=20 statistics that do not support their positions. It is also sometimes=20 colloquially used to doubt statistics used to prove an opponent's = point.

The term was popularised in the United States by Mark Twain (among others), who=20 (wrongly) attributed it to the 19th Century British Prime Minister = Benjamin Disraeli (1804=961881): "There are = three kinds=20 of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

My Comment was taken FAR too = seriously. =20 Lighten up.

My mind is open but also skeptical. = Correlations can be very misleading particularly with noisy=20 data.

Dave Nelson

Rolling Hills Estates CA

From: Kareem J. Lanier

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:55 PM

To: psn-l@..............

Subject: RE: SOLAR ACTIVITY VS. = EARTHQUAKES

Thanks=20 John.

I=20 for one thought the article sounded very interesting and intriguing, so = I=20 encourage all to continue to bring it forth and share it with PSN. = It=92s=20 appreciated!

Kareem=20 Lanier

(now=20 moved to Elk Grove, too far from the seismic activity = L=20 )

From: psn-l-request@............... =20 [mailto:psn-l-request@............... On Behalf Of John=20 Cole
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:48 AM
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Subject: Re: SOLAR ACTIVITY VS.=20 EARTHQUAKES

Al, Damn lies and statistics are pretty strong = words .Yes, it=20 has not been empirically proven as you and other gentlemen would say = however, do=20 not let strong statements discourage you from bringing information = forward for=20 all to see . Time will tell one way or the other. If we ever get a clue = as to=20 a possible cause of earthquakes it will come forward just like you = presented it . Now just suppose it does turn out to have merit? The = person who=20 brought it to the attention of the fraternity will soon be forgotten and = a new=20 individual known to us will quickly take credit for the discovery = because=20 he had known it all=20 along
&nbs= p; = ; = &= nbsp; &n= bsp; &nb= sp; &nbs= p; = ; =20 Honest John PS, A prophet is without honor in his own country ( Jesus=20 Christ)

From: = "AHrubetz@......."=20 <AHrubetz@.......>
To: = psn-l@..............
Sent: Wed,=20 June 16, 2010 6:48:59 PM
Subject: SOLAR ACTIVITY VS.=20 EARTHQUAKES

A=20 friend sent me a portion of a newsletter form the Space and Science = Research=20 Center, apparently a private concern out of Florida. The report = dealt=20 primarily with prediction of agricultural production vs sunspot = activity. =20 But what caught my eye was the statement: "After=20 studying 300-plus years of data, an SSRC study also found decreased = solar=20 activity had an 80.6% correlation with increased volcanic activity, and = 100%=20 correlation with essentially all of the largest U. S.=20 earthquakes."

I had=20 never heard of such an analogy. Is this make = believe?

Al=20 Hrubetz

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