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Subject: Re: A Sticky Question
From: Barry Lotz barry_lotz@.............
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:00:36 -0700 (PDT)


I have wound down to=A0around 40 ga. It it can be frustrating because it ta=
kes =0Avery tension to break. I have opted to wire in the 30's and used mor=
e turns and =0Acloser spacer magnets. =A0What I did was take the source coi=
l and put a piece of =0Amaterial thru the center like a pencil. I clamp the=
 pencil horizontal using one =0Aof those handsfree holders which has two al=
ligator clips which I grap the pencil =0Aends with. I put this assembly on =
the floor and hold the wire lightly with my =0Afingers near table height. I=
 think it gave me a little more slack if something =0Ahappens during the wi=
nding. I only use this proceedure when I'm using a variable =0Aspeed drill.=
 I=A0use clear nail polish because it already has a brush and it has a =0Af=
airly low viscosity.=A0I like the Idea of stopping every so often and putti=
ng a =0Alight coat on the top surface of the coil. OK this the part where o=
thers =0Aprobable will disagree. If the wire breaks, depending on the situa=
tion, I tin =0Aboth ends with the soldering iron and attach them together a=
nd continue. The =0Asplice should be short and I havent had two breaks clos=
e enough together to =0Acause a short. It does leave a slight bump in the c=
oil because the splice is of =0Alarger diameter as will be pretty much stra=
ight.=A0If I need to know the coil =0Aresistance during the process, I expo=
se the wire near where I stopped=A0with the =0Asoldering iron and measure i=
t's resistance to the starting end of the =0AcoilRegards=0ABarry=0Ahttp://w=
ww.seismicvault.com =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:=
 Jan Froom =0ATo: psn-l@...................... Wed, =
July 21, 2010 9:40:07 AM=0ASubject: A Sticky Question=0A=0AWhen I wound my =
coils using AWG 50 gauge wire (.001") the wire is really too =0Asmall to se=
e with the naked eye...=0Aso I had to use several bright lights so I could =
see reflections off the wire.=0AI used an old tape recorder drive motor... =
I put it on a rheostat so I could =0Aramp up the speed. =0A=0AWith a wire t=
hat fine once you start... there was no stopping until you were =0Adone... =
any jerking, or=0Arestarting always resulted in the wire breaking. And ther=
e was no repair... just =0Aheating the wire was enough to make it brittle a=
nd it would snap just bending =0Ait.=0A=0AThe other bad part of using that =
size wire... was that you never knew if the =0Ainitial connection, at the b=
eginning of=0Athe wind, was any good until you were done... and could check=
 for continuity.=0A=0ABut you could sure get a lot of turns on a little one=
 inch in diameter spool.=0A=0AJan in Gilroy=0A=0AChris... if you're reading=
 any of this... We're glad to hear you are getting =0Abetter and we're all =
looking forward to your return.=0AWe miss your help and insight to the whys=
 and what's of this hobby.=0A=0A=0A________________________________________=
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I have wound down to around 40 ga. It it can be f= rustrating because it takes very tension to break. I have opted to wire in = the 30's and used more turns and closer spacer magnets.  What I did wa= s take the source coil and put a piece of material thru the center like a p= encil. I clamp the pencil horizontal using one of those handsfree holders w= hich has two alligator clips which I grap the pencil ends with. I put this = assembly on the floor and hold the wire lightly with my fingers near table = height. I think it gave me a little more slack if something happens during = the winding. I only use this proceedure when I'm using a variable speed dri= ll. I use clear nail polish because it already has a brush and it has = a fairly low viscosity. I like the Idea of stopping every so often and putting a light coat on the top surface of the coil. OK this the part = where others probable will disagree. If the wire breaks, depending on th= e situation, I tin both ends with the soldering iron and attach them to= gether and continue. The splice should be short and I havent had two breaks= close enough together to cause a short. It does leave a slight bump in the= coil because the splice is of larger diameter as will be pretty much strai= ght. If I need to know the coil resistance during the process, I expos= e the wire near where I stopped with the soldering iron and measure it= 's resistance to the starting end of the coil
Regards
Barry
http://www.se= ismicvault.com =0A

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=0AFrom:<= /SPAN> Jan Froom <JDarwin@.............>
To: psn-l@..............
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 9:40:07 AM
Subject: A Sticky Question

When I wound my coils using AWG 50 gauge wire (.001") the wire is rea= lly too small to see with the naked eye...
so I had to use several brigh= t lights so I could see reflections off the wire.
I used an old tape rec= order drive motor... I put it on a rheostat so I could ramp up the speed. <= BR>With a wire that fine once you start... there was no stopping until you = were done... any jerking, or
restarting always resulted in the wire brea= king. And there was no repair... just heating the wire was enough to make i= t brittle and it would snap just bending it.

The other bad part of u= sing that size wire... was that you never knew if the initial connection, at the beginning of
the wind,= was any good until you were done... and could check for continuity.
But you could sure get a lot of turns on a little one inch in diameter spo= ol.

Jan in Gilroy

Chris... if you're reading any of this... W= e're glad to hear you are getting better and we're all looking forward to y= our return.
We miss your help and insight to the whys and what's of this= hobby.


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