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Subject: Re: Crowded magnetic lines of force
From: "GPayton" gpayton@.............
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:16:24 -0500


Hi Mike,

Just so that you don't think you are being ignored, I throw in my 2 cents.

I'm not sure of your mechanical configuration for your proposal, but I would 
think a N to N would REPEL, not add.

Being a retired EE, perhaps you remember the black & white Scottie dog toys 
many years ago.  One approaching the other from the rear cause it to quickly 
spin around! (smile)

Regards,
Jerry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Lozano
  To: psnlist@..............
  Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:02 AM
  Subject: Crowded magnetic lines of force


  Hi everyone,



  Here's a question I've always wanted to ask:  Why (if the number of 
magnetic lines of force cut per unit time produces a current flow) is it not 
possible to force two identical magnets together so that they're oriented 
(for example) N pole to N pole.  It seems to me that the lines of force 
would crowd together so that the least movement of them would produce quite 
a strong response in a coil.



  I built a simple vertical seismometer with a 5 pound plumber's lead as the 
weight, a spring and two cow magnets forced together in a 4 inch PVC tube so 
that the resting position in the coil was the point at which the maximum 
lines of force resided.  It made a lot of sense when I designed it but I 
didn't have a good environment in which to test it; e.g. A 500 foot TV 
station antenna within 50 feet; an expressway two blocks away and a location 
inside a TV studio.  To be sure, it was a short period sensor and it 
indicated a lot of local noise.



  I'm not a seismologist (that should be quite evident) . I'm a retired 
electrical engineer who specialized in grounding and lightning & transient 
damage risk mitigation.   I was just  curious and thought I'd ask.



  Miguel Lozano

  Lockhart, TX











Hi Mike,
 
Just so that you don't think you are being ignored, I throw in my 2 = cents.
 
I'm not sure of your mechanical configuration for your proposal, = but I=20 would think a N to N would REPEL, not add.
 
Being a retired EE, perhaps you remember the black & white = Scottie dog=20 toys many years ago.  One approaching the other from the rear cause = it to=20 quickly spin around! (smile)
 
Regards,
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mike=20 Lozano
To: psnlist@.............. =
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, = 2010 11:02=20 AM
Subject: Crowded magnetic lines = of=20 force

Hi=20 everyone,

 

Here=92s a=20 question I=92ve always wanted to ask:  Why (if the number of = magnetic lines=20 of force cut per unit time produces a current flow) is it not possible = to=20 force two identical magnets together so that they=92re oriented (for = example) N=20 pole to N pole.  It seems to me that the lines of force would = crowd=20 together so that the least movement of them would produce quite a = strong=20 response in a coil.

 

I = built a=20 simple vertical seismometer with a 5 pound plumber=92s lead as the = weight, a=20 spring and two cow magnets forced together in a 4 inch PVC tube so = that the=20 resting position in the coil was the point at which the maximum lines = of force=20 resided.  It made a lot of sense when I designed it but I = didn=92t have a=20 good environment in which to test it; e.g. A 500 foot TV station = antenna=20 within 50 feet; an expressway two blocks away and a location inside a = TV=20 studio.  To be sure, it was a short period sensor and it = indicated a lot=20 of local noise. 

 

I=92m not a=20 seismologist (that should be quite evident) =85 I=92m a retired = electrical=20 engineer who specialized in grounding and lightning & transient = damage=20 risk mitigation.   I was just  curious and thought = I=92d=20 ask.

 

Miguel=20 Lozano

Lockhart,=20 TX

 

 


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