On 12/7/2010 1:05 PM, AHrubetz@....... wrote:
> *If the land is severed between surface and mineral ownership, the 
> owner of the mineral rights may lease the land for drilling.  The 
> lessee then has the right to drill on the property, but must negotiate 
> and settle with the surface owner for whatever damages are inflicted 
> on the property.  In most areas where there has been much drilling, 
> this amount is usually predetermined.  Leases normally contain a 
> provision that the lessee cannot drill within a designated distance 
> from an abode.  Lessee must also maintain roads, etc.*
> *Al*
> **OK Al,& others  that makes sense but.....They ARE drilling up to six 
> directions from a single vertical hole. There could be  environmental 
> issues down the line long after the drilled area is drained. Now this 
> isn't quite the same but coal mining occurred under this city and in 
> the area over 140 years ago. We  see effects even today from these 
> mine passages collapsing. Who is liable in something that occurs 200 
> years later? The drilling operator I talked to said that these 
> earthquakes in the Guy, AR (and southern llLinois) area could not have 
> a significant effect on earthquake frequency. Most geologists in AR, 
> IL and Memphis area seem to agree. They also point to the fact that 
> drilled wells don't go down that deep .... maybe 15,000 ft at the 
> most...(most New Madrid activity is below 10 miles and the Guy stuff 
> about half as deep). The long range effect worries me. Even the 
> farfetched idea  of the disturbing of shallow bedrock could allow 
> vertical movement of salt water  along fault surfaces created in 
> berock below the fracking activity.
A quick addendum .... at least two sources (Memphis and Arkansas 
geologists) believe that  the Guy area site is a new (undiscovered) 
fault that could cause a 7+ mag quake..... and just to bring you back to 
earth... another geologist susgestts hot spring activity may be to blame 
and predicts the earthquakes will not get much larger.
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    On 12/7/2010 1:05 PM, AHrubetz@....... wrote:
    

      
      
      
        
If the land is severed between surface and mineral
            ownership, the owner of the mineral rights may lease the
            land for drilling.  The lessee then has the right to drill
            on the property, but must negotiate and settle with the
            surface owner for whatever damages are inflicted on the
            property.  In most areas where there has been much drilling,
            this amount is usually predetermined.  Leases
            normally contain a provision that the lessee cannot drill
            within a designated distance from an abode.  Lessee must
            also maintain roads, etc.
        
Al
        
OK Al,& others  that makes sense
          but.....They ARE drilling up to six directions from a single
          vertical hole. There could be  environmental issues down the
          line long after the drilled area is drained. Now this isn't
          quite the same but coal mining occurred under this city and in
          the area over 140 years ago. We  see effects even today from
          these mine passages collapsing. Who is liable in something
          that occurs 200 years later? The drilling operator I talked to
          said that these earthquakes in the Guy, AR (and southern
          llLinois) area could not have a significant effect on
          earthquake frequency. Most geologists in AR, IL and Memphis
          area seem to agree. They also point to the fact that drilled
          wells don't go down that deep .... maybe 15,000 ft at the
          most...(most New Madrid activity is below 10 miles and the Guy
          stuff about half as deep). The long range effect worries me.
          Even the farfetched idea  of the disturbing of shallow bedrock
          could allow vertical movement of salt water  along fault
          surfaces created in berock below the fracking activity. 

        
      
    A quick addendum .... at least two sources (Memphis and Arkansas
    geologists) believe that  the Guy area site is a new (undiscovered)
    fault that could cause a 7+ mag quake..... and just to bring you
    back to earth... another geologist susgestts hot spring activity may
    be to blame and predicts the earthquakes will not get much larger.

    

        

          
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