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Subject: Fw: USB Data Acquisition
From: "Dave Nelson" davefnelson@.......
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:53:45 -0000




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I saw this A/D on Ebay and decided to try it . I bought the two channel =
version for $99. =20

I tested it using the included software with the inputs terminated in =
100 ohms. The result was EXTREMELY POOR !!!!=20

 The noise level is ~2000 counts peak to peak apparently independent of =
the sample rate. This results in an effective resolution  of closer to =
12 bits not 24 on a p-p basis .=20

This is not too surprising based on the specs for the low cost =
delta-sigma A/D chips.=20



 The software makes and displays a record from the start time to the end =
time.=20

The time resolution of the real time display gets worse as the record =
length gets longer. It is not a scope type display with a variable time =
interval.

So far I have come to the conclusion this thing  is useless with its =
included software. There are .dll files for windows if one could write =
new  or adapt existing software for display/analysis but that may not  =
improve the noise.

The apparent independence of the noise as the sample rate is varied =
leads me to the initial conclusion that the A/D is running at a fixed =
high sample rate and the lower effective sample rates are  derived by =
pure decimation.=20

I need to take a closer look at it but so far I am totally unimpressed =
and don't recommend this device for any useful purpose.



24 bit A/D's in general do not perform as well as one would expect or =
hope . Read the effective resolution specs very carefully and note that =
they usually refer to RMS  noise  whereas the noise we want to use for =
seismic records is most likely peak to peak. The difference is 3 to 4 =
bits.=20

 We are not in the audio business where RMS noise may be  more =
appropriate. Frequently the effective resolution is not much better than =
16 bits at 200 sps.

Larry clearly understand the importance of the noise and goes to great =
lengths to reduce it in his A/D boards.   Sometimes the very expensive =
24 bit A/Ds are not nearly as good as the manufacturers lead one to =
believe. =20


Save your   money on this one.

Dave Nelson=20
Rolling Hills Estates , California   =20



Do any of you have any experience with these ACD devices. They  appear =
to compete with DataQ products.
=20
http://www.futekinst.com/futek/dataacquisitionsystem.asp
=20





 

 
I saw this A/D on Ebay and decided to = try it . I=20 bought the two channel version for $99. 
 
I tested it using the included software = with the=20 inputs terminated in 100 ohms. The result was EXTREMELY POOR=20 !!!! 
 
 The noise level is ~2000 counts = peak to peak=20 apparently independent of the sample rate. This results in an effective=20 resolution  of closer to 12 bits not 24 on a p-p basis . =
 
This is not too surprising based on the = specs for=20 the low cost delta-sigma A/D chips. 
 
 
 
 The software makes and displays a = record from=20 the start time to the end time. 
 
The time resolution of the real time = display gets=20 worse as the record length gets longer. It is not a scope type display = with a=20 variable time interval.
 
So far I have come to the = conclusion this=20 thing  is useless with its included software. There are .dll = files for=20 windows if one could write new  or adapt existing software for = display/analysis but that may not  improve the = noise.
 
The apparent independence of the noise = as the=20 sample rate is varied leads me to the initial conclusion that the A/D is = running=20 at a fixed high sample rate and the lower effective sample rates are=20  derived by pure decimation. =
 
I need to take a closer look at it but = so far I am=20 totally unimpressed and don't recommend this device for any useful=20 purpose.
 
 
 
24 bit A/D's in general do not perform = as well as=20 one would expect or hope . Read the effective resolution specs very = carefully=20 and note that they usually refer to RMS  noise  whereas the=20 noise we want to use for seismic records is most likely peak to=20 peak. The difference is 3 to 4 bits.
 
 We are not in the audio business = where RMS=20 noise may be  more appropriate. Frequently the effective = resolution is=20 not much better than 16 bits at 200 sps.
 
Larry clearly understand the importance = of the=20 noise and goes to great lengths to reduce it in his A/D = boards.  =20 Sometimes the very expensive 24 bit A/Ds are not nearly as good as = the=20 manufacturers lead one to believe.  
 
 
Save your   money on = this=20 one.
 
Dave Nelson 
Rolling Hills Estates , California=20    
 
 
 
Do any of you have any experience with these ACD devices. = They  appear=20 to compete with DataQ products.
 
http://= www.futekinst.com/futek/dataacquisitionsystem.asp
 
 = These=20 device appear to compete with DataQ with 16 or 24 bit offering.=20

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